Re: [mpls-tp] Proposed liaison to ITU-T on G.8110
David Sinicrope <david.sinicrope@ericsson.com> Mon, 28 June 2010 21:50 UTC
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From: David Sinicrope <david.sinicrope@ericsson.com>
To: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>, Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:50:05 -0400
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Agreed. Dave On 6/28/10 5:20 PM, "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote: Stewart, That seems like a very reasonable liaison. Cheers, Andy On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:42 PM, Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com> wrote: > > Several people have pointed out a discrepancy in the model for MPLS as > documented in G.8110. Since this formal model plays a major role in the > ITU-T MPLS-TP G.8110.1 specification, the error should to be corrected > before publication. > > I therefore propose that we send the following liaison to the ITU-T. > > - Stewart > > =============== > > To: ITU-T WP3/15 > From: IETF > > Dear Dr. Trowbridge, > > We note that G.8110 is referenced as a normative reference from the draft > text of the revision of G.8110.1. We also note that G.8110 is > now five years old, and has received no contributions for update over that > period. G.8110 has been described as "not covering all of MPLS and certainly > not what has happened in the last five years." > > We believe that G.8110.1 should document MPLS-TP accurately. It is > important, therefore, that where the model for MPLS-TP differs from that > described in G.8110, the correct model be developed and documented in > G.8110.1. > > We would like to draw your attention in specifically to Section 6.2.2 of > G.8110 (and, in particular, Figures 1 and 2) that says that the Time-To-Live > (TTL) field of an MPLS header is part of the Characteristic Information (CI) > of an MPLS_CI traffic unit. We note that according to G.805, the CI is > supposed to be delivered end-to-end between MPLS APs without modification or > inspection. But the function of a TTL in an MPLS-TP network is to be > decremented at each hop along the path, and to be inspected at each hop and > tested against zero. Thus, in the model for MPLS-TP, the TTL should not form > part of the CI. > > We request that G.8110.1 be updated to include this revision to the model. > This might most easily be achieved by augmenting the references to G.8110 > with updated figures based on those in G.8110 along with appropriate text > explaining the differences in the model such that G.8110.1 correctly > captures the model for MPLS-TP. > > ========== > _______________________________________________ > mpls-tp mailing list > mpls-tp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp > _______________________________________________ mpls-tp mailing list mpls-tp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp
- [mpls-tp] Proposed liaison to ITU-T on G.8110 Stewart Bryant
- Re: [mpls-tp] Proposed liaison to ITU-T on G.8110 Varma, Eve L (Eve)
- Re: [mpls-tp] Proposed liaison to ITU-T on G.8110 Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [mpls-tp] Proposed liaison to ITU-T on G.8110 David Sinicrope
- Re: [mpls-tp] Proposed liaison to ITU-T on G.8110 David Allan I
- Re: [mpls-tp] Proposed liaison to ITU-T on G.8110 Weingarten, Yaacov (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
- Re: [mpls-tp] Proposed liaison to ITU-T on G.8110 BUSI, ITALO (ITALO)
- Re: [mpls-tp] Proposed liaison to ITU-T on G.8110 alan.mcguire
- Re: [mpls-tp] Proposed liaison to ITU-T on G.8110 neil.2.harrison
- Re: [mpls-tp] Proposed liaison to ITU-T on G.8110 Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
- Re: [mpls-tp] Proposed liaison to ITU-T on G.8110 Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
- Re: [mpls-tp] Proposed liaison to ITU-T on G.8110 BUSI, ITALO (ITALO)
- Re: [mpls-tp] Proposed liaison to ITU-T on G.8110 Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
- Re: [mpls-tp] Proposed liaison to ITU-T on G.8110 BUSI, ITALO (ITALO)
- Re: [mpls-tp] Proposed liaison to ITU-T on G.8110 neil.2.harrison
- Re: [mpls-tp] Proposed liaison to ITU-T on G.8110 Luca Martini