Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions
Curtis Villamizar <curtis@occnc.com> Tue, 15 June 2010 02:58 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions
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In message <2ECAA42C79676B42AEBAC11229CA7D0C05FC08BC@E03MVB2-UKBR.domain1.systemhost.net> neil.2.harrison@bt.com writes: [.. trimmed for brevity ..] > > Even if the OAM > > packet contains discriminator values, if the packet does not > > carry the label, determining the LSP and therefore the > > destination MEP would be difficult in order to do CV (since > > only the source MEP TLV will be carried in the packet). > > Therefore I think the OAM context will be lost in case of PHP. > > NH=> Well yes, quite....but this misses the key point. Once we have > succumbed to using a short-cut label-swapping way of co-ps mode > forwarding we can no longer trust the label even when we have the > decency not to discard it as it's only a proxy for a DA, and the > critical SA information that checks correct connectivity is missing > altogether from the traffic units anyway! So operators who seriously > care about protecting their customers from misconnectivity need to > introduce CV (BFD?) OAM flows on ALL connections (irrespective of how > important they are) where the CV (BFD?) packets contain network > significant SA information and not some locally generated ID. > > regards, Neil Wow. I agree with Neil on something. It happens occasionally. :-) If I'm not mistaken, the LSP_TUNNEL SESSION object is needed to identify the tunnel. The LSP_ID should be ignored. An example of this in use would be a soft-preempt of an LSP which should be minimally disruptive and not trigger an OAM DOWN event. With this method, a make-before-break should not interfere with CC/CV OAM as long as the delay difference of the two LSP are not greater than the CC/CV time out (this is why the timer should be configurable and *not* fixed at specific values). BTW- I haven't seen any discussion of the interaction of make-before-break on MPLS-TP OAM. AFAIK we are not disabling make-before-break along with PHP and multipath (by default). For the "no control plane" case the tunnel ID to expect in OAM can be configured along with the label mapping. Curtis
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- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Mach Chen
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Mach Chen
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Lavanya Srivatsa
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Mukund Mani
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions neil.2.harrison
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Curtis Villamizar
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Curtis Villamizar
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions xiao.min2
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Apratim Mukherjee
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions xiao.min2
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Apratim Mukherjee
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Mukund Mani
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions xiao.min2
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions David Allan I
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions David Allan I
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions John E Drake
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Apratim Mukherjee
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Apratim Mukherjee
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions David Allan I
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Mukund Mani
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions David Allan I
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Mukund Mani
- Re: [mpls-tp] Demultiplexing to BFD sessions Apratim Mukherjee
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