Re: [mpls-tp] New Liaison Statement, "Response to “MPLS-TP OAM Analysis draft review” (ref # 041.03)"

["t.petch" <[e-mail]>]

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From: "Loa Andersson" <[e-mail]>
To: "t.petch" <[e-mail]>
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Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 12:44 PM

> Tom,
>
> you have touch upon a philosophical point, if what we got really were
> "comments" or not.
>
> ITU-T failed to send us a mail accompanying the liaison and just
> uploaded it to the IETF web-site; which btw way works very well.
>
> If you have a ref #041.03 (as in this case, the previous liaison is
> ref #041.02.
>
> Searching on the liaison statement web-page:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/liaison/
>
> takes you to
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/documents/LIAISON/file1144.pdf

Loa

Thanks for that.  My comment on the uselessness of the IETF website stems from a
repeated frustration of following an HTTPS: link there, getting the document
title in my browser, seeing a massive CRL download, and ....  half an hour
later, nothing more has appeared and my (Windows) workstation is so locked up
that I have to power it off.  It is just HTTPS: to the IETF site, and then not
always, that produces this.  But I also get 404s from attempts to download I-Ds
so to me it is clearly an IETF/AMS availability issue.  Ah well, I get there
sometimes; it's like the psychology of gambling, where a gambler is allowed to
win just often enough to keep coming on back to lose more:-(

Tom Petch


>
> /Loa
>
> On 2010-12-01 10:58, t.petch wrote:
> > What  comments are these?
> >
> > I cannot find any reference to them on the MPLS or MPLS-TP lists, nor can I
find
> > any reference to such a liaison on the lists, nor does the e-mail appear to
> > contain any data, nor can I find the liaison itself.  Given the uselessness
of
> > that part of the IETF web site, this last is no surprise, but I would expect
to
> > have seen something on both lists.
> >
> > Tom Petch
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Loa Andersson (IETF MPLS WG)"<[e-mail]>
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> > Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 12:25 PM
> > Subject: New Liaison Statement, "Response to “MPLS-TP OAM Analysis draft
review”
> > (ref # 041.03)"
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Title: Response to �MPLS-TP OAM Analysis draft review� (ref # 041.03)
> >> Submission Date: 2010-11-27
> >> URL of the IETF Web page:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/liaison_detail.cgi?detail_id=977
> >>
> >> From: Loa Andersson(IETF MPLS WG)<[e-mail]>
> >> To: ITU-T SG15 Q10([e-mail])
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> >> Purpose: For information
> >> Body:
> >>
> >> Thank you for your comments on the �MPLS-TP OAM Analysis� Internet-Draft.
> >> Since your liaison indicates that there is no ITU-T consensus on the
> >> comments in the liaison, the document editors will go ahead and update
> >> the document according to normal IETF process considering all of the
comments
> >> received in the MPLS working group last call, from the ITU-T, and from
third
> >> parties, before requesting publication. The authors will also try to
clarify
> >> the scope and intention of the document.
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> >> Loa Andersson
> >> George Swallow
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