Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-mpls-tp-on-demand-cv as a working group document
Eric Gray <eric.gray@ericsson.com> Mon, 14 March 2011 13:49 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-mpls-tp-on-demand-cv as a working group document
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Huub, Sorry for the delay in responding. As noted in my reply to Italo, the document is meant to apply generally, hence it would be inappropriate to specify how it would be used for a specific application (such as in the case of a transport profile of MPLS). As I told Italo, you (too) are correct that this needs to be documented somewhere. Just not here. We have had some iterations of the draft since your comment was posted. In fact, there will be a new one later today. Perhaps it now fits the new name better than it did... -- Eric -----Original Message----- From: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Huub van Helvoort Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 7:56 AM To: Loa Andersson Cc: mpls@ietf.org; MPLS-TP ad hoc team; mpls-tp@ietf.org Subject: Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-mpls-tp-on-demand-cv as a working group document No/do not support The change of the name of this draft gives the impression that the content of the draft changed as well. So before it can be adopted the text has to be aligned with the title: On-demand CV for MPLS-TP. I see that it is still focused on extending LSP-Ping but not for use in a transport environment. It does not indicate where the transport OAM requirements are met. It does not indicate how the ACh is used. What is the meaning of "adjacency" in the context of MPLS-TP? It does not document how this tool can be used in transport environment where tools are enabled/disabled static (compared to the dynamic set-up of LSP-ping. Regards, Huub. ============== On 21-06-10 14:07, Loa Andersson wrote: > > Working Group, > > this email is to start poll to adopt > draft-nitinb-mpls-tp-on-demand-cv-00.txt > as an MPLS working group draft. > > After recent experience, the chairs would like to remind you all > what it means to conduct a poll to adopt a draft as a working group > draft. > > - Please recall that the IETF does not "vote." Polls of a working > group are to gather information to help the chairs make their > decisions. Voting is not part of the normal working methods of > an IETF working group. > > - The "rough consensus" process used in the working group assumes > that people expressing opinions are also participating in the > development of standards documents. > > - Subscription to the list specifically to express an opinion is > noticed by the chairs who has access to information on the new list > members. Such behavior is not part of the normal working methods. > > - The purpose of a poll for adoption is to help the chairs understand > the level of support for a document (i.e. who has read it, who > believes it is a good starting point for working group work, who > will contribute to the work) and whether there are any significant > technical issues. Statements of objection must be backed up by > proper technical reasons. > > So please respond to this poll indicating whether you support the > adoption of this draft or stating your technical issues. > > Please also not that this draft has after a discussion with the > working group chairs been renamed, it was earlier know as > draft-nitinb-mpls-tp-lsp-ping-extensions-01. > > This poll ends eob July 5. > > > Loa and George > mpls wg co-chairs > -- ================================================================ http://www.van-helvoort.eu/ ================================================================ Always remember that you are unique...just like everyone else... _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list mpls@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls
- [mpls-tp] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-mpls-tp-on-d… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls-tp] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-mpls-tp-… Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [mpls-tp] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-mpls-tp-… Eric Gray
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… John E Drake
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… Kyung-Yeop Hong (hongk)
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… Luyuan Fang (lufang)
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… Nitin Bahadur
- Re: [mpls-tp] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-mpls-tp-… Reshad Rahman (rrahman)
- Re: [mpls-tp] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-mpls-tp-… David Sinicrope
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… Autumn Liu
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… Muralidhar Annabathula
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… Nitin Bahadur
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… Muralidhar Annabathula
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adoptdraft-nitinb-mp… Monique Morrow (mmorrow)
- [mpls-tp] R: poll to adopt draft-nitinb-mpls-tp-o… Di Giglio Andrea
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… D'Alessandro Alessandro Gerardo
- Re: [mpls-tp] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-mpls-tp-… Yuji Tochio
- Re: [mpls-tp] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-mpls-tp-… Zhang Haiyan
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… BUSI, ITALO (ITALO)
- Re: [mpls-tp] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-mpls-tp-… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… Lavanya Srivatsa
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls-tp] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-mpls-tp-… Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… Nitin Bahadur
- Re: [mpls-tp] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-mpls-tp-… Nitin Bahadur
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… Nitin Bahadur
- Re: [mpls-tp] comment to draft-nitinb-mpls-tp-on-… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… Eric Gray
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… Eric Gray
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] poll to adopt draft-nitinb-m… Eric Gray