[mpls-tp] 答复: [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW
Pei Zhang(联通集团技术部) <hq-zhangp@chinaunicom.cn> Fri, 02 July 2010 08:51 UTC
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Hi, The CW on many applications is also option in our network. Thanks, Pei -----邮件原件----- 发件人: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] 代表 ruiquan.jing@ties.itu.int 发送时间: 2010年7月1日 15:46 收件人: hejia@huawei.com; amalis@gmail.com 抄送: lihan@chinamobile.com; pwe3@ietf.org; mpls-tp@ietf.org 主题: Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Hi all, I agree with Jia and Luca. As CW is defined as OPTIONAL, there are many applications of PW without CW in our network. So I support the Proposal of using GAL for PW OAM. Best regards Ruiquan Jing China¡¡Telecom Beijing Research¡¡Institute > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org > [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jia HE > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 1:31 PM > To: Andrew G. Malis > Cc: lihan@chinamobile.com; pwe3@ietf.org; HUANG Feng F; > mpls-tp@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW > > Hi Andy, > > The problem is there do exist applications of PW without CW > in the network. By adding GAL for PW OAM it dosen't impact > the services on the wire and will align the OAM process for > both LSP and PW in MPLS-TP environment. > > Since MPLS-TP covers both LSP and PW, it is better to > consider them together for easy implementations. > > > > B.R. > Jia > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew G. Malis" <amalis@gmail.com> > To: "HUANG Feng F" <Feng.f.Huang@alcatel-sbell.com.cn>cn>; > "Larry" <larryli888@yahoo.com.cn> > Cc: <lihan@chinamobile.com>om>; <pwe3@ietf.org>rg>; <mpls-tp@ietf.org> > Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2010 12:27 AM > Subject: Re: [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW > > > > Larry and Feng, > > > > This issue has previously been discussed at length by the working > > group, both at the Anaheim meeting and by email, for > example in emails > > with the subject line "Possible Contradiction re use of GAL in > > pwe3-static-pw-status". There was rough consensus that for MPLS-TP > > applications and/or when PW OAM is desired, PW implementations are > > mature enough (it has been 10 years now, after all) that > the time has > > come to require the implementation of the CW for all PWs, including > > Ethernet. > > > > Cheers, > > Andy > > > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:34 AM, HUANG Feng F > > <Feng.f.Huang@alcatel-sbell.com.cn> wrote: > >> > >> it is reasonable to support GAL in MPLS-TP PW OAM, it is > more generic, because CW is an option RFC4448 for Ethernet over MPLS. > >> > >> 4.6. The Control Word > >> > >> xxxx > >> > >> > >> The features that the control word provides may not be needed for a > >> given Ethernet PW. For example, ECMP may not be present > or active on > >> a given MPLS network, strict frame sequencing may not be > required, > >> etc. If this is the case, the control word provides > little value and > >> is therefore optional. Early Ethernet PW > implementations have been > >> deployed that do not include a control word or the > ability to process > >> one if present. To aid in backwards compatibility, future > >> implementations MUST be able to send and receive frames > without the > >> control word present. > >> xxxx > >> > >> > >> > >> B.R. > >> Feng Huang > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: pwe3-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pwe3-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Larry > >> Sent: 2010Äê6ÔÂ30ÈÕ 17:38 > >> To: mpls-tp@ietf.org; pwe3@ietf.org > >> Cc: lihan@chinamobile.com > >> Subject: [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW > >> > >> Dear all: > >> > >> In section 4.2 in RFC5586, it is defined that GAL MUST > NOT be used with PWs in MPLS-TP. The PWE3 control word > [RFC4385] MUST be present when the ACH is used to realize the > associated control channel. > >> In real application, a lot of MPLS and MPLS-TP > equipments do not support control word. It is proposed to use > the GAL to identify associated control channel in PW layer. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> > >> Han Li > >> > >> > ******************************************************************** > >> Han Li, Ph.D > >> China Mobile Research Institute > >> Unit 2, 28 Xuanwumenxi Ave, Xuanwu District, Beijing 100053, China > >> Fax: +86 10 63601087 > >> MOBILE: 13501093385 > >> > ******************************************************************** > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > pwe3 mailing list > > pwe3@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pwe3 > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls-tp mailing list > mpls-tp@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp > _______________________________________________ mpls-tp mailing list mpls-tp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls-tp
- [mpls-tp] Proposal of using GAL for PW Larry
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW HUANG Feng F
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW liu.guoman
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Luca Martini
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Jia HE
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW neil.2.harrison
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW ruiquan.jing
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Thomas D. Nadeau
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Giles Heron
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Thomas D. Nadeau
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Giles Heron
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Sam Aldrin
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Giles Heron
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Giles Heron
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Giles Heron
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Giles Heron
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Shahram Davari
- [mpls-tp] 答复: Proposal of using GAL for PW Pei Zhang (联通集团技术部)
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Malcolm.BETTS
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW liu.guoman
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Greg Mirsky
- [mpls-tp] 答复: 答复: Proposal of using GAL for PW yang_jian
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Alexander Vainshtein
- [mpls-tp] 答复: [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Pei Zhang (联通集团技术部)
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Stewart Bryant
- Re: [mpls-tp] 答复: [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL fo… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls-tp] 答复: [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL fo… Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] 答复: Proposal of using GAL fo… Vishwas Manral
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] 答复: Proposal of using GAL fo… Sam Aldrin
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Stewart Bryant
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] 答复: Proposal of using GAL fo… Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] 答复: Proposal of using GAL fo… Sam Aldrin
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] 答复: Proposal of using GAL fo… Mahesh Akula
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] 答复: Proposal of using GAL fo… Sam Aldrin
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- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW BUSI, ITALO (ITALO)
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW HUANG Feng F
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Alexander Vainshtein
- Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Proposal of using GAL for PW Luca Martini