Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Pseudo-wires: uni-directional o bi-directional?

Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com> Mon, 28 June 2010 12:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] [PWE3] Pseudo-wires: uni-directional o bi-directional?
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Stewart,
Lots of thanks for a prompt and unambiguous response..
This issues looks like one more fine point of MPLS-TP-ese to me: Does "co-routed" mean "co-routed in the immediate lower layer" or "co-routed in all the underlying layers down to the duct"?
FWIW, I tend to agree with your interpretation: "co-routed" means "co-routed in the immediate lower layer", and hence PWs (both single-segment and multi-segment) are co-routed bi-directional LSPs.

Regards,
     Sasha

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Subject: Re: [PWE3] Pseudo-wires: uni-directional o bi-directional?



It seems to me that PWs are associated bi-directional LSPs...

PWs are co-routed bi-directional since it is required that they go through the same xPEs in each direction, and the xPEs knows about the association of the two directional components.

Whether they run over co-routed bi-directional, or associated bi-directional LSP is a deployment/applicability issue.

- Stewart