Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-loss-delay-profile-02
Dan Frost <danfrost@cisco.com> Fri, 04 March 2011 12:32 UTC
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Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 12:33:56 +0000
From: Dan Frost <danfrost@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp-loss-delay-profile-02
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Hi Tom, On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 04:46:03PM +0100, t.petch wrote: > The choice of parameters here looks fine but the language that goes > with it less so. > > The protocol will still send the parameters in TLV but this I-D says > that "When an LM session is externally configured, the values of > several protocol parameters can be fixed in advance at the endpoints > involved in the session, so that inspection or negotiation of these > parameters is not required." " A simple implementation may assume that > external configuration will ensure that both ends of the communication > are using the default values for these parameters." > > This seems to me too cavalier. If one end is configured correctly for > eg packet and the other incorrectly for byte and these recommendations > are followed, then the protocol will work, will produce values and > those values will be a complete nonsense. Ditto the other parameters > and DM. > > I do not think we should be recommending something which is open to > such errors. There have been a fair number of posts on the mpls-tp > list about misconfiguration, about the fact that it is always with us > and that we need to be robust in the presence of it. Here we seem to > be digging a heffalump trap for mpls-tp to fall into. Do you have some alternative text to propose that indicates the desirability of common-sense sanity-checking without running afoul of, for example, those who insist that they should not have to inspect certain fields because an NMS will take care of everything? -d > Tom Petch
- [mpls-tp] MPLS WG last call on draft-ietf-mpls-tp… Ross Callon
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG Last call on draft-i… Dan Frost
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG Last call on draft-i… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG Last call on draft-i… Dan Frost
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG last call on draft-i… t.petch
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG last call on draft-i… LASSERRE, MARC (MARC)
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG last call on draft-i… LASSERRE, MARC (MARC)
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG last call on draft-i… LASSERRE, MARC (MARC)
- Re: [mpls-tp] [mpls] MPLS WG last call on draft-i… Dan Frost
- Re: [mpls-tp] MPLS WG last call on draft-ietf-mpl… Ross Callon