Re: [mpls-tp] New ID draft-xiao-mpls-tp-throughput-estimation-00
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Dear Curtis, > -----Original Message----- > From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > Of Curtis Villamizar > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 2:20 PM > To: xiao.min2@zte.com.cn > Cc: MPLS TP > Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] New ID draft-xiao-mpls-tp-throughput-estimation-00 > > > In message <OF3C67F8EE.D74D19A5-ON4825774C.003FA57C- > 4825774C.003FE087@zte.com.cn> > xiao.min2@zte.com.cn writes: > > > > A new Internet Draft titled "Throughput Estimation for MPLS Transport > > Profile" has been submitted after the 77th meeting: > > > > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-xiao-mpls-tp-throughput-estimation-00 > > > Processing of ACH will typically take a slower path than forwarding of > MPLS labeled traffic. Any measurement based on rate of processing OAM > traffic will therefore be invalid for all such architectures. > > For example, a typical ASIC today clocks at 450-600 MHz. Packets at > 150 mpps (100 Gb/s small Ethernet packets) have 3-4 clock cycles to be > processed if parallelism or pipelining is not used. Hardware to do > this forwarding is more specialized than hardware to handle OAM, which > may be a set of microcoded engines or may even be a route processor. > > I am familiar with designs of a number of major router (LSR) vendors > and quite a few independent silicon suppliers. None that I know of > process OAM at the same continuous rate as payload traffic. This is > true for even some of the very lower end merchant silicon handling > only a few Gb/s (at least afaik, since I don't work in that space). > [MP:] If this is as you say, then I wonder how throughput measurement can be done using Ethernet OAM (Y.1731), which has been out in the world for quite a while? > Therefore I think this draft should not be accepted as a WG item. > > IMO- The notion that OAM be used for throughput measurement should be > removed from the OAM framework if that is still possible. [MP:] I prefer to keep that important option. > > Curtis Thanks, Manuel
- [mpls-tp] New ID draft-xiao-mpls-tp-throughput-es… xiao.min2
- Re: [mpls-tp] New ID draft-xiao-mpls-tp-throughpu… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: [mpls-tp] New ID draft-xiao-mpls-tp-throughpu… Manuel.Paul
- Re: [mpls-tp] New ID draft-xiao-mpls-tp-throughpu… Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [mpls-tp] New ID draft-xiao-mpls-tp-throughpu… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: [mpls-tp] New ID draft-xiao-mpls-tp-throughpu… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: [mpls-tp] New ID draft-xiao-mpls-tp-throughpu… xiao.min2
- Re: [mpls-tp] New ID draft-xiao-mpls-tp-throughpu… Huub van Helvoort
- Re: [mpls-tp] New ID draft-xiao-mpls-tp-throughpu… xiao.min2