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Re: [mpls-tp] Alarm Reporting (aka AIS)

"Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)" <nurit.sprecher@nsn.com> Thu, 09 December 2010 15:06 UTC

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From: "Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)" <nurit.sprecher@nsn.com>
To: "ext Thomas Nadeau" <tnadeau@lucidvision.com>
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Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] Alarm Reporting (aka AIS)
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Tom,
I was referring to the ITU-T process for consensus...
Huub said that the document was approved by consensus! 
I expect Huub to clarify his point...
Best regards,
Nurit


-----Original Message-----
From: ext Thomas Nadeau [mailto:tnadeau@lucidvision.com] 
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 5:06 PM
To: Sprecher, Nurit (NSN - IL/Hod HaSharon)
Cc: ext Huub van Helvoort; neil.2.harrison@bt.com; mpls-tp@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] Alarm Reporting (aka AIS)


	Determining consensus is clearly the job of the co-chairs.

	--Tom


> Huub,
> This kind of exchanges is very unpleasant....
> We keep hearing Neil's approach on AIS in CO-PS for years..he clearly expressed it many times on the list....It is absolutely not a recent change...
> I would also curious to understand what consensus means...does it mean that everyone agreed to the content, that there was no even one objection? 
> Best regards,
> Nurit
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-tp-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of ext Huub van Helvoort
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 2:50 PM
> To: neil.2.harrison@bt.com
> Cc: mpls-tp@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [mpls-tp] Alarm Reporting (aka AIS)
> 
> Hi Neil,
> 
> You replied:
> 
>> Do you know how old that Rec is?
> 
> Yes. And there is a more recent one that contains
> similar text. So you must have changed your mind
> very recently.
> 
>> Do you know that ITU  Recs are written by several
>> folks and represent a general view of all
>> particapting parties at that time?
> 
> They are approved by consensus.
> And because Y.1710 concerns MPLS I would guess that
> MPLS experts were present when it was consented.
> 
>> Do you not believe folks can change their minds in the
>> light of improved understanding/knowledge?...
> 
> Sure, but wouldn't it have been better to document
> that change of mind.
> 
> Regards, Huub.
> 
> 
> 
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