[mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr (2nd WG call)

Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Mon, 30 September 2024 00:48 UTC

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Hi Tianran,
Thank you for the reference. As I understand your requests, you don't see
how the MNA solution, defined in draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr, conforms to these
requirements. Is that correct?

Regards,
Greg

On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 5:43 PM Tianran Zhou <zhoutianran@huawei.com> wrote:

> Hi Greg,
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> Please see below:
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>    5.   Subject to the constraints in these requirements, a Network
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>         Action solution MAY carry MNA information in-stack, post-stack,
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>         or both in-stack and post-stack.
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>    6.   Solution specifications MUST NOT require an implementation to
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>         support in-stack ancillary data, unless the implementation
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>         chooses to support an NA that uses in-stack ancillary data.
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>
>
> Tianran
>
> *From:* Greg Mirsky [mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2024 8:24 AM
> *To:* Tianran Zhou <zhoutianran@huawei.com>
> *Cc:* Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li>; Zafar Ali (zali) <zali@cisco.com>; mpls <
> mpls@ietf.org>; mpls-chairs <mpls-chairs@ietf.org>;
> draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on
> draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr (2nd WG call)
>
>
>
> Hi Tianran,
>
> Please point me to the part of RFC 9613
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc9613/> that supports your request.
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>
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 4:44 PM Tianran Zhou <zhoutianran=
> 40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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> The IPR poll for the two document did not hit the point.
>
> The point is how can the MNA mechanism disable the ISD and use PSD only.
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> The draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr need to resolve this.
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>
>
> Tianran
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>
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> *From:* Tony Li [mailto:tony1athome@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Tony Li
> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2024 12:13 AM
> *To:* Zafar Ali (zali) <zali@cisco.com>
> *Cc:* Tianran Zhou <zhoutianran@huawei.com>; Dongjie (Jimmy) <
> jie.dong@huawei.com>; Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com>; mpls <
> mpls@ietf.org>; mpls-chairs <mpls-chairs@ietf.org>;
> draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr@ietf.org
> *Subject:* Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr (2nd WG
> call)
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>
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> Hi Zafar,
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> I am aware of the thread but all we hear is that chairs are discussing the
> responses and will share further update, “interest” vs. “consensus” debate,
> the chairs are discussing how to initiate the PSD debate, etc. There were
> 65 emails on the original PSD poll. I am not sure why we need another round
> of debate and what will be the nature of that debate. Why not just start WG
> adoption call and gauge the WG “consensus”.
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> That’s exactly what we’re doing. The process for doing this begins with an
> IPR poll.
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> Nic started the IPR poll on draft-mb-mpls-ioam-dex and
> draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-dex on Sept 3.
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> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mpls/XU3Ycij6Oq2kGWi14k3eXmpdQvM/
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> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mpls/7NmJqyMHDairPxEn7PGxz99KNiI/
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> Tony
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