[mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr (2nd WG call)
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Hi Tianran, Thank you for the reference. As I understand your requests, you don't see how the MNA solution, defined in draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr, conforms to these requirements. Is that correct? Regards, Greg On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 5:43 PM Tianran Zhou <zhoutianran@huawei.com> wrote: > Hi Greg, > > > > Please see below: > > > > 5. Subject to the constraints in these requirements, a Network > > Action solution MAY carry MNA information in-stack, post-stack, > > or both in-stack and post-stack. > > > > 6. Solution specifications MUST NOT require an implementation to > > support in-stack ancillary data, unless the implementation > > chooses to support an NA that uses in-stack ancillary data. > > > > Tianran > > *From:* Greg Mirsky [mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2024 8:24 AM > *To:* Tianran Zhou <zhoutianran@huawei.com> > *Cc:* Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li>; Zafar Ali (zali) <zali@cisco.com>; mpls < > mpls@ietf.org>; mpls-chairs <mpls-chairs@ietf.org>; > draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on > draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr (2nd WG call) > > > > Hi Tianran, > > Please point me to the part of RFC 9613 > <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc9613/> that supports your request. > > > > Regards, > > Greg > > > > On Sun, Sep 29, 2024 at 4:44 PM Tianran Zhou <zhoutianran= > 40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > The IPR poll for the two document did not hit the point. > > The point is how can the MNA mechanism disable the ISD and use PSD only. > > The draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr need to resolve this. > > > > Tianran > > > > *From:* Tony Li [mailto:tony1athome@gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Tony Li > *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2024 12:13 AM > *To:* Zafar Ali (zali) <zali@cisco.com> > *Cc:* Tianran Zhou <zhoutianran@huawei.com>; Dongjie (Jimmy) < > jie.dong@huawei.com>; Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com>; mpls < > mpls@ietf.org>; mpls-chairs <mpls-chairs@ietf.org>; > draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr (2nd WG > call) > > > > > > Hi Zafar, > > > > I am aware of the thread but all we hear is that chairs are discussing the > responses and will share further update, “interest” vs. “consensus” debate, > the chairs are discussing how to initiate the PSD debate, etc. There were > 65 emails on the original PSD poll. I am not sure why we need another round > of debate and what will be the nature of that debate. Why not just start WG > adoption call and gauge the WG “consensus”. > > > > > > That’s exactly what we’re doing. The process for doing this begins with an > IPR poll. > > > > Nic started the IPR poll on draft-mb-mpls-ioam-dex and > draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-dex on Sept 3. > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mpls/XU3Ycij6Oq2kGWi14k3eXmpdQvM/ > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mpls/7NmJqyMHDairPxEn7PGxz99KNiI/ > > > > Tony > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list -- mpls@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mpls-leave@ietf.org > >
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- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Adrian Farrel
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… John Drake
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… John Drake
- [mpls] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mpls… Tarek Saad
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Rakesh Gandhi
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- [mpls] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mpls… Tarek Saad
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… je_drake@yahoo.com
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Jaganbabu Rajamanickam (jrajaman)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… xiao.min2
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Matthew Bocci (Nokia)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tarek Saad
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Joel Halpern
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Jaganbabu Rajamanickam (jrajaman)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… je_drake@yahoo.com
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… John Drake
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tarek Saad
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… je_drake@yahoo.com
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mpls… Tarek Saad
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Joel Halpern
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Acee Lindem
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Adrian Farrel
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… xiao.min2
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Joel Halpern
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Haoyu Song
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Joel Halpern
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Joel Halpern
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Gyan Mishra
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Jaganbabu Rajamanickam (jrajaman)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Gyan Mishra
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Joel Halpern
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Fabian Ihle
- [mpls] 答复: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Aijun Wang
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… John Drake
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- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Joel Halpern
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… John Drake
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… John Drake
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… John Drake
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Joel Halpern
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Joel Halpern
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Joel Halpern
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Joel Halpern
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… John Drake
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… John Drake
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… John Drake
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Jaganbabu Rajamanickam
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Joel Halpern
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… jmh.direct
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Joel Halpern
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Gyan Mishra
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Jaganbabu Rajamanickam (jrajaman)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… John Drake
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… je_drake@yahoo.com
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Joel Halpern
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
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- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Joel Halpern
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- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Jaganbabu Rajamanickam (jrajaman)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… jmh.direct
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tarek Saad
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… John Drake
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- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: 答复: Working Group Last Call on draft-i… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Matthew Bocci (Nokia)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Adrian Farrel
- [mpls] Re: 答复: Working Group Last Call on draft-i… John Drake
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Jaganbabu Rajamanickam (jrajaman)
- [mpls] Re: 答复: Working Group Last Call on draft-i… Haoyu Song
- [mpls] Re: 答复: Working Group Last Call on draft-i… je_drake@yahoo.com
- [mpls] Re: 答复: Working Group Last Call on draft-i… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: 答复: Working Group Last Call on draft-i… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Michael Menth
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: 答复: Working Group Last Call on draft-i… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Disacussion on draft-mb-mpls Re: Re: 答复: W… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Zafar Ali (zali)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Jaganbabu Rajamanickam (jrajaman)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou