Re: [mpls] nits and question on draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping-02

"Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <cpignata@cisco.com> Sat, 11 February 2017 22:25 UTC

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From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <cpignata@cisco.com>
To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>
Thread-Topic: [mpls] nits and question on draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping-02
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Subject: Re: [mpls] nits and question on draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping-02
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I agree, Acee.

From: "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>
Date: Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 4:59 PM
To: Carlos Pignataro <cpignata@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [mpls] nits and question on draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping-02

Hi Carlos,

From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <cpignata@cisco.com<mailto:cpignata@cisco.com>>
Date: Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 2:16 PM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com<mailto:acee@cisco.com>>
Cc: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu<mailto:loa@pi.nu>>, "mpls@ietf.org<mailto:mpls@ietf.org>" <mpls@ietf.org<mailto:mpls@ietf.org>>, "mpls-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:mpls-chairs@ietf.org>" <mpls-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:mpls-chairs@ietf.org>>, "draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@ietf.org>" <draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@ietf.org>>
Subject: Re: [mpls] nits and question on draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping-02

Hi Acee,

On Feb 11, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com<mailto:acee@cisco.com>> wrote:

Hi Carlos,

I guess I commented without knowing the context of the comment ;^) See inline.

From: "Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)" <cpignata@cisco.com<mailto:cpignata@cisco.com>>
Date: Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 1:29 PM
To: Acee Lindem <acee@cisco.com<mailto:acee@cisco.com>>
Cc: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu<mailto:loa@pi.nu>>, "mpls@ietf.org<mailto:mpls@ietf.org>" <mpls@ietf.org<mailto:mpls@ietf.org>>, "mpls-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:mpls-chairs@ietf.org>" <mpls-chairs@ietf.org<mailto:mpls-chairs@ietf.org>>, "draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@ietf.org>" <draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping@ietf.org>>
Subject: Re: [mpls] nits and question on draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping-02

Hi, Acee,
On Feb 11, 2017, at 12:40 PM, Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com<mailto:acee@cisco.com>> wrote:

And a last question, should BGP-LS be in that registry?

I guess no until someone needs it?

BGP-LS has its own set of registries.

Thanks. Yes. The question is whether to have a BGP-LS value for the MPLS LSP Ping DDMAP protocol: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-spring-lsp-ping-02#section-6

In that case, it might make sense to add a code point for BGP-LS since it is the only way to advertise the SIDs (i.e, labels when MPLS SR is the data plane) for BGP EPE as described in https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-idr-bgp-prefix-sid-04.txt. However, one could argue that specifying BGP would suffice since unless you are going to specify other BGP Address Families (AFI/SAFI tuples) as individual protocols.


That’s exactly the question — use the BGP protocol or define a new BGP-LS?

To me though, until someone sits down to do the BGP EPE LSP Ping analysis, we should not assume one way or another.

I’d vote to just use BGP rather than setting the precedent of a separate protocol ID for an AFI/SAFI – are we going to have a protocol ID for BGP L3VPN or BGP EVPN? I guess the question is, from an OAM perspective, how is the DDMAP protocol going to be used?

Thanks,
Acee






Thanks,

Carlos.


Thanks,
Acee




Thanks,

Carlos.