[mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-mpls-inband-pm-encapsulation-15: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
xiao.min2@zte.com.cn Tue, 10 September 2024 06:20 UTC
Return-Path: <xiao.min2@zte.com.cn>
X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7844EC151071; Mon, 9 Sep 2024 23:20:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -4.202
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.202 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fgimUGpQnGL2; Mon, 9 Sep 2024 23:20:34 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mxhk.zte.com.cn (mxhk.zte.com.cn [63.216.63.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12A71C14F685; Mon, 9 Sep 2024 23:20:29 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mxct.zte.com.cn (unknown [192.168.251.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mxhk.zte.com.cn (FangMail) with ESMTPS id 4X2tqF4hmFz8RSdP; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 14:20:25 +0800 (CST)
Received: from mse-fl2.zte.com.cn (unknown [10.5.228.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mxct.zte.com.cn (FangMail) with ESMTPS id 4X2tpg3G1Lz501gV; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 14:19:55 +0800 (CST)
Received: from njb2app06.zte.com.cn ([10.55.23.119]) by mse-fl2.zte.com.cn with SMTP id 48A6JmIf029623; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 14:19:48 +0800 (+08) (envelope-from xiao.min2@zte.com.cn)
Received: from mapi (njy2app04[null]) by mapi (Zmail) with MAPI id mid201; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 14:19:50 +0800 (CST)
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 14:19:50 +0800
X-Zmail-TransId: 2afc66dfe506071-b4d0a
X-Mailer: Zmail v1.0
Message-ID: <20240910141950285thZInxELPhbnFSBkdgXlH@zte.com.cn>
In-Reply-To: <0845429C-00A4-49E9-8A77-B03DFBFD5F95@tony.li>
References: 20240909084747863DD6L3jyLtJvvqYF9jzk2r@zte.com.cn,202409101055422722ZzIyzcS1_YTa9i7ADtDb@zte.com.cn,0845429C-00A4-49E9-8A77-B03DFBFD5F95@tony.li
Mime-Version: 1.0
From: xiao.min2@zte.com.cn
To: tony.li@tony.li
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=====_001_next====="
X-MAIL: mse-fl2.zte.com.cn 48A6JmIf029623
X-Fangmail-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-Fangmail-MID-QID: 66DFE529.000/4X2tqF4hmFz8RSdP
Message-ID-Hash: YWHC7IOCBHVI3QMODT2U3EG3QWKF4LUW
X-Message-ID-Hash: YWHC7IOCBHVI3QMODT2U3EG3QWKF4LUW
X-MailFrom: xiao.min2@zte.com.cn
X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-mpls.ietf.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header
CC: iesg@ietf.org, draft-ietf-mpls-inband-pm-encapsulation@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@ietf.org, mpls@ietf.org, tsaad@cisco.com
X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9rc4
Precedence: list
Subject: [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-mpls-inband-pm-encapsulation-15: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG <mpls.ietf.org>
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mpls/1gS-k7pm1ZuqOjZsg9k2TS3BPLk>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/mpls>
List-Help: <mailto:mpls-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Owner: <mailto:mpls-owner@ietf.org>
List-Post: <mailto:mpls@ietf.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:mpls-join@ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:mpls-leave@ietf.org>
Hi Tony, Could you please provide the text you expected? Or remain the current text as is? Cheers, Xiao Min Original From: TonyLi <tony.li@tony.li> To: 肖敏10093570; Cc: James Guichard <james.n.guichard@futurewei.com>;Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>;The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>;draft-ietf-mpls-inband-pm-encapsulation <draft-ietf-mpls-inband-pm-encapsulation@ietf.org>;mpls-chairs <mpls-chairs@ietf.org>;mpls <mpls@ietf.org>;tsaad@cisco.com <tsaad@cisco.com>; Date: 2024年09月10日 14:04 Subject: Re: [mpls] John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-mpls-inband-pm-encapsulation-15: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Ok, this is NOT the result that I was expecing and I’m sorry, but I’m not on board with this. T On Sep 9, 2024, at 7:55 PM, - xiao.min2 at zte.com.cn <mailforwards@cloudmails.net> wrote: Dear Jim, By using the text suggested by Deborah, with some small tweaks, the proposed changes are as below. OLD Note that in parallel to the work of this document, there is ongoing work on MPLS Network Actions (MNA) [I-D.ietf-mpls-mna-fwk]. Considering the MPLS performance measurement with the Alternate-Marking method can also be achieved by MNA encapsulation, it is agreed that this document will be made Historic once the MNA solution of performance measurement with the Alternate-Marking method is published as an RFC.¶ NEW Note that in parallel to the work of this document, there is ongoing work on MPLS Network Actions (MNA) [RFC9613]. The MPLS performance measurement with the Alternate-Marking method can also be achieved by MNA encapsulation. In addition, MNA will provide a broader use case applicability. That means the MNA encapsulation will provide an alternative, more advanced solution, when published as an RFC.¶ Best Regards, Xiao Min From: JamesGuichard <james.n.guichard@futurewei.com> To: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>;Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li>; Cc: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>;draft-ietf-mpls-inband-pm-encapsulation <draft-ietf-mpls-inband-pm-encapsulation@ietf.org>;mpls-chairs <mpls-chairs@ietf.org>;mpls <mpls@ietf.org>;tsaad@cisco.com <tsaad@cisco.com>; Date: 2024年09月09日 23:13 Subject: Re: [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-mpls-inband-pm-encapsulation-15: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Dear authors, Could you please provide the text you are planning to add to the document so that everyone is on the same page. I believe that I understand what will change but I would like to see the actual text. Thanks! Jim From: James Guichard <james.n.guichard@futurewei.com> Date: Monday, September 9, 2024 at 11:00 AM To: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>, Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li> Cc: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-mpls-inband-pm-encapsulation <draft-ietf-mpls-inband-pm-encapsulation@ietf.org>, mpls-chairs <mpls-chairs@ietf.org>, mpls <mpls@ietf.org>, tsaad@cisco.com <tsaad@cisco.com> Subject: Re: [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-mpls-inband-pm-encapsulation-15: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT) Suggest: can also be achieved by MNA encapsulation, it is agreed .will be made Historic/s/can also be achieved by MNA encapsulation and, in addition, MNA will provide a broader use case applicability. The MNA encapsulation will provide an alternative, more advanced solution, when published as an RFC. [XM]>>> The text you suggested looks good to me. As an editor of this document, I'll let the ADs and MPLS WG chairs to comment before using your text in the next revision. I’m not sure I can precisely follow the notation that you’ve used, but I understand your intent and have no issue with it. Jim> I also have no issue with it. I am comfortable with the explanation provided by the chairs in response to my query during my AD review. Jim Tony MPLS co-chair Document shepherd _______________________________________________ mpls mailing list -- mpls@ietf.org To unsubscribe send an email to mpls-leave@ietf.org
- [mpls] John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-mpls-… John Scudder via Datatracker
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… xiao.min2
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… John Scudder
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… xiao.min2
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… xiao.min2
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… James Guichard
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… James Guichard
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… xiao.min2
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… xiao.min2
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… xiao.min2
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… Joel Halpern
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… James Guichard
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… xiao.min2
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: John Scudder's Discuss on draft-ietf-m… xiao.min2