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Hi Xufeng,

Thanks for your review.  Please see inline for replies.

> On Dec 3, 2021, at 13:28, Xufeng Liu <xufeng.liu.ietf@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>=20
> Hi Authors,
> I have reviewed the document and I think that the document is useful =
by addressing a gap for network operations. The approach is technically =
sound and easily implementable. The document is coherent. It is ready to =
be considered for WG adoption.
> Here are a few comments that can wait until the WG adoption.
> 1. The aging/timeout mechanism used by Ethernet ARP is not mentioned =
in this document. Is it intended to recommend implementing such a =
mechanism?
>=20

Thanks for this reminder!  We will add more on this in a future =
revision.
> 2. It is understandable that the initial use case came from MPLS over =
Ethernet, but is this mechanism Ethernet dependent, or usable for other =
types of hardware (at least in theory)?
>=20

This mechanism is general.  However, the details for MPLS over some =
other hardware type may be a little bit different (for example, =
depending on the media, the hardware address may contain media addresses =
in addition to labels).  So, for now, the focus is on MPLS over =
Ethernet.
> 3. Sec 3.3. says that =E2=80=9C1. checks if it has reachability to =
H3.=E2=80=9D Is this check for =E2=80=9CIP reachablity=E2=80=9D, or MPLS =
reachability with an available lable stack that can be used to reach H3?
>=20

Fixed.
> 4. In Figure 3. of Sec 5.1., there is =E2=80=9C ... (3 octets)=E2=80=9D.=
 Should it be =E2=80=9C2 octets=E2=80=9D here? Also, if these 2 octets =
are not used, why 6 is chosen as the hardware address length?
>=20

3 octets (clarified).
> Thanks,
> - Xufeng
>=20
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 11:19 AM Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com =
<mailto:tsaad.net@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi Xufeng/Yingzhen/Rakesh,
>=20
> =20
>=20
> You have been selected as potential MPLS-RT reviewers for =
draft-kompella-mpls-larp-10.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Note to authors: You have been CC'd on this email so that you can know =
that this review is going on.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Reviews should comment on whether the document is coherent, is it =
useful (ie, is it likely to be actually useful in operational networks), =
and is the document technically sound?  We are interested in knowing =
whether the document is ready to be considered for WG adoption (ie, it =
doesn't have to be perfect at this point, but should be a good start).
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Reviews should be sent to the document authors, WG co-chairs and WG =
secretary, and CC'd to the MPLS WG email list. If necessary, comments =
may be sent privately to only the WG chairs.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> If you have technical comments you should try to be explicit about =
what *really* need to be resolved before adopting it as a working group =
document, and what can wait until the document is a working group =
document and the working group has the revision control.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Can you review the document by November 26, 2021?
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Regards,
>=20
> Tarek (as MPLS WG chair)
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi =
Xufeng,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Thanks for =
your review. &nbsp;Please see inline for replies.<br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Dec =
3, 2021, at 13:28, Xufeng Liu &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:xufeng.liu.ietf@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">xufeng.liu.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%" =
class=3D""><font class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, =
sans-serif" class=3D""><font style=3D"font-size:12pt" class=3D"">Hi
Authors,</font></font></font></p><p =
style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%" class=3D""><font =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" =
class=3D""><font style=3D"font-size:12pt" class=3D"">I
have reviewed the document and I think that the document is useful by
addressing a gap for network operations. The approach is technically
sound and easily implementable. The document is coherent.  It is
ready to be considered for WG adoption.</font></font></font></p><p =
style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%" class=3D""><font =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" =
class=3D""><font style=3D"font-size:12pt" class=3D"">Here are a few =
comments that can wait until the WG adoption.</font></font></font></p><p =
style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%" class=3D""><font =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" =
class=3D""><font style=3D"font-size:12pt" class=3D"">1.
The aging/timeout mechanism used by Ethernet ARP is not mentioned in
this document. Is it intended to recommend implementing such a
mechanism?</font></font></font></p><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div>Thanks=
 for this reminder! &nbsp;We will add more on this in a future =
revision.<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><p =
style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%" class=3D""><font =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" =
class=3D""><font style=3D"font-size:12pt" class=3D"">2.
It is understandable that the initial use case came from MPLS over
Ethernet, but is this mechanism Ethernet dependent, or usable for
other types of hardware (at least in =
theory)?</font></font></font></p><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=3D""></div>This =
mechanism is general. &nbsp;However, the details for MPLS over some =
other hardware type may be a little bit different (for example, =
depending on the media, the hardware address may contain media addresses =
in addition to labels). &nbsp;So, for now, the focus is on MPLS over =
Ethernet.<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><p =
style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%" class=3D""><font =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" =
class=3D""><font style=3D"font-size:12pt" class=3D"">3.
Sec 3.3. says that =E2=80=9C1.  checks if it has reachability to H3.=E2=80=
=9D Is
this check for =E2=80=9CIP reachablity=E2=80=9D, or MPLS reachability =
with an
available lable&nbsp;stack that can be used to reach =
H3?</font></font></font></p><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote><br =
class=3D"">Fixed.</div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><p =
style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%" class=3D""><font =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" =
class=3D""><font style=3D"font-size:12pt" class=3D"">4.
In Figure 3. of Sec 5.1., there is =E2=80=9C ... (3 octets)=E2=80=9D.  =
Should it
be =E2=80=9C2 octets=E2=80=9D here? Also, if these 2 octets are not =
used, why 6
is chosen as the hardware address length?</font></font></font></p><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br =
class=3D""></div>3 octets (clarified).<br class=3D""><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><p =
style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%" class=3D""><font =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" =
class=3D""><font style=3D"font-size:12pt" =
class=3D"">Thanks,</font></font></font></p><p =
style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%" class=3D""><font =
class=3D""><font face=3D"Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" =
class=3D""><font style=3D"font-size:12pt" class=3D"">-
Xufeng</font></font></font></p></div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov =
8, 2021 at 11:19 AM Tarek Saad &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tsaad.net@gmail.com" =
class=3D"">tsaad.net@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br =
class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-CA" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;" class=3D"">
<div class=3D"gmail-m_1523404207369455224WordSection1"><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt" class=3D"">Hi =
Xufeng/Yingzhen/Rakesh,<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt" class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt" class=3D"">You have =
been selected as potential MPLS-RT reviewers for =
draft-kompella-mpls-larp-10.<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:14pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:14pt" class=3D"">Note to authors: You have been CC'd =
on this email so that you can know that this review is going on.<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:14pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:14pt" class=3D"">Reviews should comment on whether =
the document is coherent, is it useful (ie, is it likely to be actually =
useful in operational networks), and is the document technically =
sound?&nbsp; We are interested in knowing
 whether the document is ready to be considered for WG adoption (ie, it =
doesn't have to be perfect at this point, but should be a good start).<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:14pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:14pt" class=3D"">Reviews should be sent to the =
document authors, WG co-chairs and WG secretary, and CC'd to the MPLS WG =
email list. If necessary, comments may be sent privately to only the WG =
chairs.<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt" class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt" class=3D"">If you =
have technical comments you should try to be explicit about what =
*really* need to be resolved before adopting it as a working group =
document, and what can wait until the document is a working group
 document and the working group has the revision control.<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:14pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:14pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-size:14pt" class=3D"">Can you review the document by =
November 26, 2021?<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt" class=3D""><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt" class=3D"">Regards, =
<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt" class=3D"">Tarek (as =
MPLS WG chair)<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></p>
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