Re: [mpls] working group last call for draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf

"Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Tue, 07 April 2015 20:57 UTC

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From: "Adrian Farrel" <adrian@olddog.co.uk>
To: "'Ross Callon'" <rcallon@juniper.net>, <mpls@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call for draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf
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Hi Ross,
 
Apologies for a late review from me, as well (my excuses is that as AD
I didn't participate in WG last calls, and since Dallas I've been sick).
 
I have no objection to this document and it addresses a specific
requirement to provide a mechanism to enable MPLS OAM features that is
independent from the control plane, but that nevertheless does not
require the MCN either.
 
I wonder whether the various bit flag arrays (such as Figure 1/Table 1,
Figure 2, Figure 7) should be managed by IANA? In any case, it would be
helpful to use some more consistent language to say that unassigned bits
MUST be transmitted as zero and ignored on receipt - currently this is
deduced from the figures through a variety of language.
 
My final thought is to ask why this document doesn't share data 
structures with draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-te-mpls-tp-oam-ext. Of course, it
doesn't need to, but it is probably turning on and off exactly the same
OAM function, so it might save some text to use the same structures.
 
Cheers,
Adrian
 
From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ross Callon
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Subject: Re: [mpls] working group last call for
draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf
 
This working group last call has now ended. 
 
There was one public response (to the MPLS working group) in support. I also got
private responses of support from two of the authors. Otherwise there were no
responses (neither in favor nor opposed). This is not sufficient to constitute
"rough consensus". As such the working group last call has failed.
 
My inclination is to wait for the July IETF (in Prague), and give the authors an
opportunity to present and solicit additional support. Depending upon the
response there, we may then repeat the WGLC. 
 
Thanks, Ross
(as WG co-chair)
 
From: mpls [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ross Callon
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Subject: [mpls] working group last call for
draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf
 
Working Group,
 
This is to initiate a working group last call on
draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-mpls-tp-oam-conf-09. 
Because this WGLC will span the IETF in Dallas, it will be extended to just over
three weeks. 
 
Please send your comments to the mpls wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org).
 
There are no IPR disclosures against this document. All the authors have stated
that they 
are not aware of any IPR that relates to this draft (two of the responses were
private to 
the WG chairs).
 
This working group last call ends Thursday  April 2, 2015.  
 
Ross
for the MPLS WG chairs