Re: [mpls] Taxonomy of MPLS MNA drafts

Robert Raszuk <rraszuk@gmail.com> Fri, 08 July 2022 14:17 UTC

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Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2022 16:17:03 +0200
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Subject: Re: [mpls] Taxonomy of MPLS MNA drafts
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Hi Tony,

> A network action sub-stack can be as small as a single LSE

Well the framework (as written) does not seem to allow that.

Note that it says:

An MNA solution is envisioned as a set of network action *sub-stacks*,
   plus possible post-stack data.

To me this means plural only.

Many thx,
R.


On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 16:13, Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li> wrote:

>
> Hi Robert,
>
> A network action sub-stack can be as small as a single LSE, so your
> solution is not precluded by the framework draft.
>
> Your draft has not been ignored.  There are many proposed solutions and
> time has been divided.  On the MNA documents taxonomy, your solution rates
> an entire section.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2022, at 2:35 AM, Robert Raszuk <rraszuk@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Stewart,
>
> Great summary !!!
>
> One comment - if we consider this sentence as definition of MNA from
> draft-andersson-mpls-mna-fwk-04:
>
>  2
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-andersson-mpls-mna-fwk-04#section-2>.
> Structure
>
>    An MNA solution is envisioned as a set of network action sub-stacks,
>    plus possible post-stack data.
>
>
> then my proposal
>
>
> 8 pages
>
> draft-raszuk-mpls-raf-fwk-00
> Framework of MPLS Reference Augmented Forwarding
>
> 2022-04-25	I-D Exists	
>
>
> is really not a solution document but parallel framework document to accomplish what is listed in MNA
>
> requirements. The framework document which locks solutions is not proper IMHO.
>
>
> It is bizarre that MPLS WG chairs have been ignoring draft-raszuk-mpls-raf-fwk completely.
>
>
> Many thx,
>
> R/
>
>
>
> On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 at 13:57, Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ahead of the call this afternoon I took at the set of MPLS drafts,
>> considering
>>
>> 1) MNA drafts already adopted
>> 2) All of the MPLS  individual drafts
>>
>> I classified them into:
>>
>> 1) Setting the scenes and WIP
>> 2) Candidate Solutions
>> 3) Drafts concerning the re-use of ELI/EL
>> 4) Drafts not related to the MNA discussion
>>
>> So first question is whether I have missed any drafts that need to be in
>> one of these lists?
>>
>> Second question have I classified them correctly?
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Stewart
>>
>>
>> Setting the scenes and WIP
>>
>> 25 pages
>> draft-ietf-mpls-mna-requirements-01
>> Requirements for MPLS Network Action Indicators and MPLS Ancillary Data
>> 2022-06-21 I-D Exists
>> WG Document
>>
>>
>> 12 pages
>> draft-ietf-mpls-mna-usecases-00
>> Use Cases for MPLS Network Action Indicators and MPLS Ancillary Data
>> 2022-05-19 I-D Exists
>> WG Document
>>
>> 18 pages
>> draft-andersson-mpls-mna-fwk-04
>> MPLS Network Actions Framework
>> 2022-06-27
>> New I-D Exists
>> Call For Adoption By WG Issued : Informational 2
>> Nicolai Leymann
>>
>> 16 pages
>> draft-bryant-mpls-dev-primer-02
>> A Primer on the Development of MPLS
>> 2022-05-09 I-D Exists
>>
>>
>> Candidate Solutions
>>
>> 13 pages
>> draft-andersson-mpls-eh-architecture-03
>> MPLS Extension Header Architecture
>> 2022-04-05 I-D Exists
>>
>>
>> 15 pages
>> draft-andersson-mpls-eh-label-stack-operations-03
>> MPLS Label Operations in MPLS EH capable networks
>> 2022-04-05 I-D Exists
>>
>> 14 pages
>> draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-05
>> MPLS Data Plane Encapsulation for In-situ OAM Data
>> 2022-07-06
>> New I-D Exists 3
>>
>> 13 pages
>> draft-kbbma-mpls-1stnibble-01
>> IANA Registry for the First Nibble Following a Label Stack
>> 2022-04-27 I-D Exists
>>
>>
>> 14 pages
>> draft-kompella-mpls-mspl4fa-02
>> Multi-purpose Special Purpose Label for Forwarding Actions
>> 2022-02-09 I-D Exists 1
>>
>>
>> 8 pages
>> draft-li-mpls-enhanced-vpn-vtn-id-02
>> Carrying Virtual Transport Network Identifier in MPLS Packet
>> 2022-03-07 I-D Exists
>>
>>
>> 41 pages
>> draft-li-mpls-entropy-01
>> Entropy Values
>> 2022-05-12 I-D Exists
>>
>>
>> 6 pages
>> draft-liu-mpls-nas-combination-00
>> Combination Method of NASs
>> 2022-05-24 I-D Exists
>>
>> 8 pages
>> draft-raszuk-mpls-raf-fwk-00
>> Framework of MPLS Reference Augmented Forwarding
>> 2022-04-25 I-D Exists
>>
>>
>> 11 pages
>> draft-song-mpls-eh-indicator-05
>> Options for MPLS Extension Header Indicator
>> 2022-06-27
>> New I-D Exists
>>
>>
>> 13 pages
>> draft-song-mpls-extension-header-06
>> MPLS Extension Header
>> 2022-01-10
>> Expires soon I-D Exists
>>
>> Reuse of ELI/EL
>>
>> 10 pages
>> draft-decraene-mpls-slid-encoded-entropy-label-id-04
>> Using Entropy Label for Network Slice Identification in MPLS networks.
>> 2022-06-14 I-D Exists 2
>>
>> 22 pages
>> draft-jags-mpls-mna-hdr-00
>> MPLS Network Action (MNA) Header Encodings
>> 2022-07-06
>> New I-D Exists 2
>>
>> 9 pages
>> draft-li-mpls-redefining-eli-00
>> Redefining ELI considered harmful; NPL considered harmful
>> 2022-04-07 I-D Exists
>>
>>
>> Not Related to this Discussion
>>
>> 14 pages
>> draft-gandhi-mpls-stamp-pw-01
>> Encapsulation of Simple TWAMP (STAMP) for Pseudowires in MPLS Networks
>> 2022-01-14
>> Expires soon I-D Exists
>>
>>
>> 8 pages
>> draft-gao-mpls-teas-rsvpte-state-update-04
>> State-updating mechanism in RSVP-TE for MPLS network
>> 2022-01-10
>> Expires soon I-D Exists
>>
>> 7 pages
>> draft-liu-mpls-lsp-ping-nrp-00
>> LSP Ping/Traceroute for SR-MPLS NRP SIDs
>> 2022-06-13 I-D Exists
>>
>> 13 pages
>> draft-lm-mpls-sfc-path-verification-03
>> MPLS-based Service Function Path(SFP) Consistency Verification
>> 2022-06-11 I-D Exists
>>
>>
>> 38 pages
>> draft-nainar-mpls-lsp-ping-yang-02
>> YANG Data Model for MPLS LSP Ping
>> 2022-01-28 I-D Exists
>> Candidate for WG Adoption : Proposed Standard
>> Loa Andersson
>>
>>
>> 10 pages
>> draft-qu-mpls-mpls-msd-yang-03
>> A YANG Model for MPLS MSD
>> 2022-02-02 I-D Exists
>> Candidate for WG Adoption
>>
>>
>> 14 pages
>> draft-wijnands-mpls-mldp-multi-topology-04
>> mLDP Extensions for Multi-Topology Routing
>> 2022-03-07 I-D Exists
>> Candidate for WG Adoption
>> Tarek Saad
>>
>>
>> 17 pages
>> draft-xp-mpls-spring-lsp-ping-path-sid-04
>> Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping for Segment Routing (SR) Path Segment
>> Identifiers (SIDs) with MPLS Data Planes
>> 2022-06-21
>>
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