Re: [mpls] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-reply-mode-simple-04: (with DISCUSS)

Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 30 September 2015 02:39 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mpls] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-reply-mode-simple-04: (with DISCUSS)
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Hi,

Thanks for suggesting text quickly to address this.  Inline

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> On Sep 29, 2015, at 10:28 PM, Mach Chen <mach.chen@huawei.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Kathleen,
> 
> Thanks for reviewing the draft and the suggestion!
> 
> Regarding the DISCUSS, how about the following update?
> 
> OLD:
> Beyond those specified in [RFC4379] and [RFC7110], there are no further security measures required.
> 
> NEW:
> Those security considerations specified in [RFC4379] and [RFC7110] apply for this document.
> In addition, this document introduces the Reply Mode Order TLV. It provides a new way for an unauthorized source to gather more network information, especially the potential return path(s) information of an LSP. To protect against unauthorized sources using MPLS echo request messages with the Reply Mode Order TLV to obtain network information, similar to [RFC4379], it is RECOMMENDED that implementations provide a means of checking the source addresses of MPLS echo request messages against an access list before accepting the message.

If the message is not encrypted, this content is still exposed potentially, right?  This helps, but also mentioning lack of confidentiality protection might be helpful too.

Thank you,
Kathleen 

> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Mach 
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kathleen Moriarty [mailto:Kathleen.Moriarty.ietf@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 11:15 PM
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>> Subject: Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on
>> draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-reply-mode-simple-04: (with DISCUSS)
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>> DISCUSS:
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>> 
>> This should be easy to resolve.  SInce this draft adds a new capability to
>> include the return path, this provides another attack vector to observe path
>> information that could be part of reconnaissance gathering to later attack the
>> network or path.  While the referenced RFC4379 mentions the following in the
>> security considerations section:
>> 
>>   The third is an
>>   unauthorized source using an LSP ping to obtain information about the
>>   network.
>> 
>> The equivalent should be added for this new capability in this draft, since now
>> it's possible to gather the path information from the new feature.
>