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[mpls] Re: Working Group Adoption Poll on draft-gandhi-mpls-mna-ioam-dex

Tony Li <tony1athome@gmail.com> Mon, 07 October 2024 16:07 UTC

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[WG chair hat: off]

Take 2:

I object to progressing this draft for the following reasons:

1) This document has IPR filings against it that are on RAND terms, not the more usual don’t-sue-us-we-won’t-sue-you terms. 

2) We still don’t need PSD. Show me a set of unrelated operators who will all agree we must have a specific application that cannot be supported without PSD.

3) The draft-mb-mpls-ioam-dex is necessary and sufficient.

Tony


On Oct 7, 2024, at 5:47 PM, - N.Leymann at telekom.de <mailforwards@cloudmails.net> wrote:



Dear WG,

 

This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-gandhi-mpls-mna-ioam-dex as a MPLS working group
document.

 

Please send your comments (support/not support) to the MPLS working group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org).

Please give a technical motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that the document

should not be adopted as a working group document.

 

Please note that the IPR poll was done on draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-dex, the datatracker correctly shows

the chained history of the drafts and all authors of draft-gandhi-mpls-mna-ioam-dex/draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-dex

responded to the poll.

 

Currently, there are four IPR disclosures against this document. 

 

https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft&id=draft-gandhi-mpls-mna-ioam-dex" rel="nofollow">https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft&id=draft-gandhi-mpls-mna-ioam-dex

 

This working group adoption poll ends October 22nd, 2024.

 

Regards,

 

Nic (as MPLS WG Co-chair)

 

 

 

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