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To: Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>, draft-bryant-mpls-rfc6374-sfl
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Subject: Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-bryant-mpls-rfc6374-sfl
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<div><span>Hi,</span></div><div><span>I review this draft, and also the t=
wo related S=46L draft. Overall, this document is useful and technically =
sound. And I have some non-blocking comments listed below. Regarding the =
adoption, I suggest to consider adopting&nbsp;</span>draft-bryant-mpls-sf=
l-framework-03 first, then this draft which is highly relied on the conce=
pt of S=46L.</div><div><br></div><div>Section 3</div><div><div>&nbsp; &nb=
sp;The data service packets of the flow being instrumented are grouped</d=
iv><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;into batches, and all the packets within a batch are=
 marked with the</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;S=46L =5BI-D.ietf-mpls-flow-ident=
=5D</div><div>=5BLizhong=5D more suitable to refer =5Bdraft-bryant-mpls-s=
fl-framework=5D, not =5BI-D.ietf-mpls-flow-ident=5D</div></div><div><br><=
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<div><span>Section 4</span></div><div><span><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;Such a pack=
et may not need to be carried over an S=46L since the delay</div><div>&nb=
sp; &nbsp;over a particular LSP should be a function of the TC bits.</div=
><div>=5BLizhong=5D not understand here, adding S=46L does not change the=
 LSE and TC, why not possible to carry over S=46L=3F</div><div>&nbsp;</di=
v><div>Section 7</div><div><div>7. &nbsp;Multiple Packet Delay Characteri=
stics</div><div><span style=3D=22line-height: 1.5;=22>=5BLizhong=5D is it=
 assumed here that all packets belong to one flow will go through the sam=
e path=3F Some network equipment may not be the case. E.g., case in R=46C=
7424.</span></div></div><div><span style=3D=22line-height: 1.5;=22><br></=
span></div><div>Section 7.1</div><div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;There will be a n=
umber of Interval/Number pairs depending on the</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;nu=
mber of buckets being specified by the Querier. &nbsp;If an R=46C6374</di=
v><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;message is being used to configure the buckets, the R=
esponder MUST</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;respond with 0 packets in each bucke=
t until it has been configured</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;for a full measurem=
ent period (i.e. it was configured at the time of</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;=
the last response message). &nbsp;Out of band configuration is permitted<=
/div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;by this mode of operation.</div><div>=5BLizhong=5D=
 need detail process of Query and Reponse.&nbsp;<span style=3D=22line-hei=
ght: 1.5;=22>E.g., does the query need =22Number pkts in Bucket=22 field,=
 and if not, please specify.</span></div></div><div><br></div><div><div>7=
.3.1. &nbsp;R=46C6374 Multi-Packet Delay Measurement Message =46ormat</di=
v><div>=5BLizhong=5D this is only for Classic Standard Deviation, right=3F=
 why it is not section 7.2.1=3F</div></div><div><br></div><div>7.4</div><=
div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;This R=46C6374 message is carried over an LSP in th=
e way described in</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;=5BR=46C6374=5D and over an LSP=
 with an S=46L as described in Section 9</div><div><span style=3D=22line-=
height: 1.5;=22>=5BLizhong=5D what's the format of query message, will it=
 include =22Time of =46irst Packet=22, =22Time of =46irst Packet=22, and =
other fields=3F</span></div></div><div><br></div><div><div>13.1. &nbsp;Al=
location of PW Associated Channel Type</div><div><span style=3D=22line-he=
ight: 1.5;=22>&nbsp; &nbsp;As per the IANA considerations in =5BR=46C5586=
=5D, IANA is requested to</span></div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;allocate the foll=
owing Channel Type in the =22PW Associated Channel</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp=
;Type=22 registry:</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;Value &nbsp;Desc=
ription &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp;TLV =46ollows &nbsp;Reference</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp;----- &nbsp;----=
------------------------- &nbsp;----------- &nbsp;---------</div><div>&nb=
sp; &nbsp;TBD &nbsp; &nbsp;Description MPLS Multi-Packet &nbsp;No &nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; This</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; Delay Measurement</div><div>=5BLizhong=5D there is other two message=
 type need to be defined here. E.g.,&nbsp;<span style=3D=22line-height: 1=
.5;=22>Bucket Jitter Measurement Message =46ormat,&nbsp;</span><span styl=
e=3D=22line-height: 1.5;=22>Average Delay Measurement Message =46ormat</s=
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9/2017 11:09</span>=EF=BC=8C<a class=3D=22mail-to=22 style=3D=22text-deco=
ration:none;color:=232a97ff;=22 href=3D=22mailto:loa=40pi.nu=22>Loa Ander=
sson&lt;loa=40pi.nu&gt;</a> wrote=EF=BC=9A </div>
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Huub,&nbsp;Andy,&nbsp;Vishwas&nbsp;and&nbsp;Lizhong,
<br>
<br>You&nbsp;have&nbsp;been&nbsp;selected&nbsp;as&nbsp;MPLS-RT&nbsp;revie=
wers&nbsp;for&nbsp;
<br>draft-bryant-mpls-rfc6374-sfl-03.
<br>
<br>Note&nbsp;to&nbsp;authors:&nbsp;You&nbsp;have&nbsp;been&nbsp;CC'd&nbs=
p;on&nbsp;this&nbsp;email&nbsp;so&nbsp;that&nbsp;you&nbsp;can&nbsp;know
<br>that&nbsp;this&nbsp;review&nbsp;is&nbsp;going&nbsp;on.&nbsp;However,&=
nbsp;please&nbsp;do&nbsp;not&nbsp;review&nbsp;your&nbsp;own
<br>document.
<br>
<br>Reviews&nbsp;should&nbsp;comment&nbsp;on&nbsp;whether&nbsp;the&nbsp;d=
ocument&nbsp;is&nbsp;coherent,&nbsp;is&nbsp;it
<br>useful&nbsp;(ie,&nbsp;is&nbsp;it&nbsp;likely&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;act=
ually&nbsp;useful&nbsp;in&nbsp;operational&nbsp;networks),&nbsp;
<br>nd&nbsp;is&nbsp;the&nbsp;document&nbsp;technically&nbsp;sound=3F
<br>
<br>We&nbsp;are&nbsp;interested&nbsp;in&nbsp;knowing&nbsp;whether&nbsp;th=
e&nbsp;document&nbsp;is&nbsp;ready&nbsp;to&nbsp;be
<br>considered&nbsp;for&nbsp;WG&nbsp;adoption&nbsp;(ie,&nbsp;it&nbsp;does=
n't&nbsp;have&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;perfect&nbsp;at&nbsp;this
<br>point,&nbsp;but&nbsp;should&nbsp;be&nbsp;a&nbsp;good&nbsp;start).&nbs=
p;Please&nbsp;remember&nbsp;that&nbsp;it&nbsp;often&nbsp;is
<br>easier&nbsp;to&nbsp;progress&nbsp;the&nbsp;document&nbsp;when&nbsp;it=
&nbsp;has&nbsp;become&nbsp;a&nbsp;working&nbsp;group
<br>document.&nbsp;All&nbsp;comments&nbsp;in&nbsp;the&nbsp;MPLS-RT&nbsp;r=
eview&nbsp;needs&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;addressed,
<br>but&nbsp;please&nbsp;think&nbsp;carefully&nbsp;about&nbsp;whether&nbs=
p;a&nbsp;comment&nbsp;is&nbsp;gating&nbsp;the
<br>adoption&nbsp;or&nbsp;could&nbsp;just&nbsp;as&nbsp;easily&nbsp;be&nbs=
p;addressed&nbsp;after&nbsp;the&nbsp;adoption.
<br>
<br>Reviews&nbsp;should&nbsp;be&nbsp;sent&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;document&=
nbsp;authors,&nbsp;WG&nbsp;co-chairs&nbsp;and&nbsp;WG
<br>secretary,&nbsp;and&nbsp;CC'd&nbsp;to&nbsp;the&nbsp;MPLS&nbsp;WG&nbsp=
;email&nbsp;list.&nbsp;If&nbsp;necessary,&nbsp;comments
<br>may&nbsp;be&nbsp;sent&nbsp;privately&nbsp;to&nbsp;only&nbsp;the&nbsp;=
WG&nbsp;chairs.
<br>
<br>If&nbsp;you&nbsp;have&nbsp;technical&nbsp;comments&nbsp;you&nbsp;shou=
ld&nbsp;try&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;explicit&nbsp;about&nbsp;what
<br>needs&nbsp;to&nbsp;be&nbsp;resolved&nbsp;before&nbsp;adopting&nbsp;it=
&nbsp;as&nbsp;a&nbsp;working&nbsp;group&nbsp;document,&nbsp;and
<br>what&nbsp;can&nbsp;wait&nbsp;until&nbsp;the&nbsp;document&nbsp;is&nbs=
p;a&nbsp;working&nbsp;group&nbsp;document&nbsp;and&nbsp;the
<br>working&nbsp;group&nbsp;has&nbsp;the&nbsp;revision&nbsp;control.
<br>
<br>Are&nbsp;you&nbsp;able&nbsp;to&nbsp;review&nbsp;this&nbsp;draft&nbsp;=
by&nbsp;March&nbsp;23,&nbsp;2017=3F&nbsp;Please&nbsp;respond
<br>whether&nbsp;you&nbsp;are&nbsp;available&nbsp;to&nbsp;do&nbsp;the&nbs=
p;review&nbsp;in&nbsp;a&nbsp;timely&nbsp;fashion.
<br>
<br>
<br>Thanks,&nbsp;Loa
<br>(as&nbsp;MPLS&nbsp;WG&nbsp;co-chair)
<br>--&nbsp;
<br>
<br>
<br>Loa&nbsp;Andersson&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;email:&nbsp;loa=40mail01.huawei.com
<br>Senior&nbsp;MPLS&nbsp;Expert&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
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