Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make draft-xu-mpls-in-udp an mpls working group document
"Shahram Davari" <davari@broadcom.com> Tue, 18 December 2012 06:32 UTC
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From: Shahram Davari <davari@broadcom.com>
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Subject: Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make draft-xu-mpls-in-udp an mpls working group document
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For service provider domain, MPLS over IP is legacy and there is no need to improve it. Regards, Shahram On Dec 17, 2012, at 8:02 PM, "Xuxiaohu" <xuxiaohu@huawei.com> wrote: > Shahram, > > This draft is ONLY intended to provide a MPLS-over-IP encapsulation method with a better load-balancing applicability so far to those operators who happen to require transporting MPLS application traffic across IP networks. I believe MPLS-based VPN over IP, NVGRE and VXLAN each have their own advocators and use cases. If you absolutely believe it's meaningless of transporting MPLS application traffic across IP networks and therefore those existing RFCs related to MPLS over IP tunneling mechanisms should be moved to Historic status, please say so. > > By the way, it seems this (http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/nvo3/current/msg01864.html) is just the right thread suitable for you to make the following argument (i.e., whether or not MPLS-based VPN is applicable to data centers). I had thought you would speak up at that time. Sadly, surprisingly silent till now. > > Sigh, I didn't intend to say the above otherwise. > > Xiaohu > >> -----邮件原件----- >> 发件人: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] 代表 S. >> Davari >> 发送时间: 2012年12月15日 13:34 >> 收件人: Loa Andersson >> 抄送: draft-xu-mpls-in-udp@tools.ietf.org; mpls@ietf.org; >> mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org >> 主题: Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make draft-xu-mpls-in-udp an >> mpls working group document >> >> I don't support this draft since it has no application in today's modern metro >> and core, where MPLS is dominant, and its only practical application in in data >> center, which already is crowded with other solutions such as NVGRE and >> VXLAN. >> >> It seems the authors are trying to bypass the NVO3 solution selection process >> by advancing the draft in MPLS WG. >> >> Regards, >> Shahram >> >> >> On Dec 14, 2012, at 1:01 AM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote: >> >>> Working group, >>> >>> This is to start a "two week" poll on adopting >>> draft-xu-mpls-in-udp-06 as an MPLS working group document. >>> Due to the holiday season this poll has been extended with one week. >>> >>> Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working >>> group mailing list (mpls at ietf.org) Please give an technical >>> motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that >>> the document should not be adopted as a working group document. >>> >>> This poll ends January 07, 2013. >>> >>> There is one IPR claim against this document - >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1941/ . >>> >>> All the active co-authors has stated on the working group mailing list >>> that they are not aware of any other IPR claims than those already >>> disclosed. >>> >>> However, up to version -03 (the document that we used for the IPR poll) >>> Marshall Eubanks was listed as one of the authors. Marshall has >>> discontinued all interactions with the IETF, including the author team >>> of draft-xu-mpls-in-udp-06. The working group chairs has tried to >>> contact Marshall by other means, to try get a response on the IPR poll. >>> We have had no success in this. >>> >>> From version -04 the authors decided to remove Marshall as a co-author. >>> >>> /Loa >>> (mpls wg co-chair) >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Loa Andersson email: >> loa.andersson@ericsson.com >>> Sr Strategy and Standards Manager loa@pi.nu >>> Ericsson Inc phone: +46 10 717 52 13 >>> +46 767 72 92 13 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpls mailing list >>> mpls@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls
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- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Lucy yong
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Vivek Kumar
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… S. Davari
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Kireeti Kompella
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Sam Aldrin
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Mach Chen
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Xuxiaohu
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Dhruv Dhody
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Nischal Sheth
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Puneet Agarwal
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Xuxiaohu
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Rogers, Josh
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Shane Amante
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Xuxiaohu
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Xuxiaohu
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Shane Amante
- [mpls] Discussion on how to transport MPLS over U… Xuxiaohu
- Re: [mpls] MPLS client layer over an IGP underlyi… Adrian Farrel
- [mpls] MPLS client layer over an IGP underlying n… Lucy yong
- Re: [mpls] MPLS client layer over an IGP underlyi… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] MPLS client layer over an IGP underlyi… Lucy yong
- Re: [mpls] MPLS client layer over an IGP underlyi… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] MPLS client layer over an IGP underlyi… Lucy yong
- Re: [mpls] MPLS client layer over an IGP underlyi… Lucy yong
- Re: [mpls] Discussion on how to transport MPLS ov… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [mpls] MPLS client layer over an IGP underlyi… Lucy yong
- Re: [mpls] MPLS client layer over an IGP underlyi… Xuxiaohu
- Re: [mpls] MPLS client layer over an IGP underlyi… Xuxiaohu
- Re: [mpls] MPLS client layer over an IGP underlyi… S. Davari
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Lucy yong
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Pat Thaler
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Lucy yong
- Re: [mpls] MPLS client layer over an IGP underlyi… Lucy yong
- Re: [mpls] MPLS client layer over an IGP underlyi… S. Davari
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Lizhenbin
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Lizhong Jin
- Re: [mpls] MPLS client layer over an IGP underlyi… Xuxiaohu
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Xuxiaohu
- Re: [mpls] MPLS client layer over an IGP underlyi… Shahram Davari
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Xuxiaohu
- Re: [mpls] MPLS client layer over an IGP underlyi… Xuxiaohu
- [mpls] MPLS over L2TP over UDP//re: poll to see i… Xuxiaohu
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Lucy yong
- Re: [mpls] MPLS client layer over an IGP underlyi… Lucy yong
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Pat Thaler
- Re: [mpls] poll to see if we have support to make… Pat Thaler
- [mpls] Poll ended - poll to see if we have suppor… Loa Andersson