From nobody Fri Dec  3 13:28:29 2021
Return-Path: <xufeng.liu.ietf@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
 by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8FE3A09C7;
 Fri,  3 Dec 2021 13:28:27 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.098
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5
 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1,
 DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001,
 HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001]
 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key)
 header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44])
 by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024)
 with ESMTP id 0aecsTobRv7F; Fri,  3 Dec 2021 13:28:24 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-ed1-x52a.google.com (mail-ed1-x52a.google.com
 [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52a])
 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits))
 (No client certificate requested)
 by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3E91B3A09C4;
 Fri,  3 Dec 2021 13:28:24 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-ed1-x52a.google.com with SMTP id o20so16719421eds.10;
 Fri, 03 Dec 2021 13:28:24 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; 
 h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to
 :cc; bh=ywuSzu4AwWgkVSGpQD9vGL7uI9k2lv26fFJe+xzpVJM=;
 b=O8TPfCpM69/8qCUkK7x+XSMwOaa0Dpl8Gszt7Unup/qnrbREdw3BpMpKK+ODJGcdUH
 olojSd9Oi48rRx0pXDNC/U7RSGB4sM6e8np4wWwq8xUkEsVgRmorR34iSjYT13VKp0gk
 sIi8tK0UtfNqPgbrZAG5rsmNeD0Z46lPjFaxFZ7lnPi1ZtM1XMz/SfE2ZavXBLK0BrI6
 5vlJUOV43msANxkR04Wwbwlc319zHuz/lx3vP27tmW/YSq8LaC9Sm6F75CmT4yXCPlAJ
 yWBaHLy8dq8EPd6wi44s6xnuq9hHhvWtjAMMfMEqOkH9CxT3orIOPW62+dwH/yRYtixs
 Xmcg==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
 d=1e100.net; s=20210112;
 h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date
 :message-id:subject:to:cc;
 bh=ywuSzu4AwWgkVSGpQD9vGL7uI9k2lv26fFJe+xzpVJM=;
 b=eNbjZ/birbUUxVDIls6iEy4SqRLkkriU9oH8CMm8yASjD5s+Lsi9rUaErYmyR3b+lo
 403vZNG4pfNG301paVT7lk46xMNG3Ivt+U/ry41Cswd5IQxDxbQtI6J1kK8dU0ki4bdV
 qorke6KNLVUcqgg3RFi1+pg8Bsf4P824FstIw0oDxSB3GrassMtUIMmldg33gpf5DDZR
 IMjmFsa3eqaP396go1ketI7JbtcsmhxQgYIdSOgv0R1zOWrPsmFkA71uw1M/w4KuBE7m
 2V/aWtojC3PfRYBXYRGwGaG8R/AL1+pxd+1IAopDBkF4WRO49zEnsBT/FT3+Slv2R3kz
 f2hg==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532nIaSRlO4MngXgxuN4O3XeZVK2EammpxmPrn7lByIt6U2WRokL
 qh8vU5KE/3uj0CalSuiMhkEizTR1YphS6gUnu71DdZohjCw=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw4oMdeidX9Dp+nAy4iSTuwN3tQ1Cp+zgrycXxRg67Mh1GJRm7Rjb6ejlIWgv/tSSv03oqTrKbigOJA4XVsorI=
X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:1c15:: with SMTP id
 nc21mr26083786ejc.260.1638566901245; 
 Fri, 03 Dec 2021 13:28:21 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <DM5PR1901MB215031C9C20B7BC86BECEC5AFC919@DM5PR1901MB2150.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
In-Reply-To: <DM5PR1901MB215031C9C20B7BC86BECEC5AFC919@DM5PR1901MB2150.namprd19.prod.outlook.com>
From: Xufeng Liu <xufeng.liu.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2021 16:28:10 -0500
Message-ID: <CAEz6PPQFepA2bDRYMWKPf0Cd6u6H6O1-bY2F9VHK3gqgKS72Gw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com>
Cc: "yingzhen.qu@huawei.com" <yingzhen.qu@huawei.com>, 
 "rgandhi.ietf@gmail.com" <rgandhi.ietf@gmail.com>,
 "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" <mpls-chairs@ietf.org>, 
 "draft-kompella-mpls-larp@ietf.org" <draft-kompella-mpls-larp@ietf.org>,
 mpls@ietf.org
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000016e93605d2449674"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mpls/GZjHaJbZJR27Zhx_E55Bp8DnFGs>
Subject: Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT for draft-kompella-mpls-larp
X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG <mpls.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/mpls>,
 <mailto:mpls-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/mpls/>
List-Post: <mailto:mpls@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:mpls-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls>,
 <mailto:mpls-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2021 21:28:28 -0000

--00000000000016e93605d2449674
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Authors,

I have reviewed the document and I think that the document is useful by
addressing a gap for network operations. The approach is technically sound
and easily implementable. The document is coherent. It is ready to be
considered for WG adoption.

Here are a few comments that can wait until the WG adoption.

1. The aging/timeout mechanism used by Ethernet ARP is not mentioned in
this document. Is it intended to recommend implementing such a mechanism?

2. It is understandable that the initial use case came from MPLS over
Ethernet, but is this mechanism Ethernet dependent, or usable for other
types of hardware (at least in theory)?

3. Sec 3.3. says that =E2=80=9C1. checks if it has reachability to H3.=E2=
=80=9D Is this
check for =E2=80=9CIP reachablity=E2=80=9D, or MPLS reachability with an av=
ailable
lable stack that can be used to reach H3?

4. In Figure 3. of Sec 5.1., there is =E2=80=9C ... (3 octets)=E2=80=9D. Sh=
ould it be =E2=80=9C2
octets=E2=80=9D here? Also, if these 2 octets are not used, why 6 is chosen=
 as the
hardware address length?

Thanks,

- Xufeng

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 11:19 AM Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Xufeng/Yingzhen/Rakesh,
>
>
>
> You have been selected as potential MPLS-RT reviewers for
> draft-kompella-mpls-larp-10.
>
>
>
> Note to authors: You have been CC'd on this email so that you can know
> that this review is going on.
>
>
>
> Reviews should comment on whether the document is coherent, is it useful
> (ie, is it likely to be actually useful in operational networks), and is
> the document technically sound?  We are interested in knowing whether the
> document is ready to be considered for WG adoption (ie, it doesn't have t=
o
> be perfect at this point, but should be a good start).
>
>
>
> Reviews should be sent to the document authors, WG co-chairs and WG
> secretary, and CC'd to the MPLS WG email list. If necessary, comments may
> be sent privately to only the WG chairs.
>
>
>
> If you have technical comments you should try to be explicit about what
> *really* need to be resolved before adopting it as a working group
> document, and what can wait until the document is a working group documen=
t
> and the working group has the revision control.
>
>
>
>
>
> Can you review the document by November 26, 2021?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tarek (as MPLS WG chair)
>

--00000000000016e93605d2449674
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"ltr">
=09
=09


<p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%"><font color=3D"#000000"><fo=
nt face=3D"Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font style=3D"font-size:=
12pt">Hi
Authors,</font></font></font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%"><font color=3D"#000000"><fo=
nt face=3D"Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font style=3D"font-size:=
12pt">I
have reviewed the document and I think that the document is useful by
addressing a gap for network operations. The approach is technically
sound and easily implementable. The document is coherent.  It is
ready to be considered for WG adoption.</font></font></font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%"><font color=3D"#000000"><fo=
nt face=3D"Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font style=3D"font-size:=
12pt">Here are a few comments that can wait until the WG adoption.</font></=
font></font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%"><font color=3D"#000000"><fo=
nt face=3D"Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font style=3D"font-size:=
12pt">1.
The aging/timeout mechanism used by Ethernet ARP is not mentioned in
this document. Is it intended to recommend implementing such a
mechanism?</font></font></font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%"><font color=3D"#000000"><fo=
nt face=3D"Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font style=3D"font-size:=
12pt">2.
It is understandable that the initial use case came from MPLS over
Ethernet, but is this mechanism Ethernet dependent, or usable for
other types of hardware (at least in theory)?</font></font></font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%"><font color=3D"#000000"><fo=
nt face=3D"Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font style=3D"font-size:=
12pt">3.
Sec 3.3. says that =E2=80=9C1.  checks if it has reachability to H3.=E2=80=
=9D Is
this check for =E2=80=9CIP reachablity=E2=80=9D, or MPLS reachability with =
an
available lable=C2=A0stack that can be used to reach H3?</font></font></fon=
t></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%"><font color=3D"#000000"><fo=
nt face=3D"Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font style=3D"font-size:=
12pt">4.
In Figure 3. of Sec 5.1., there is =E2=80=9C ... (3 octets)=E2=80=9D.  Shou=
ld it
be =E2=80=9C2 octets=E2=80=9D here? Also, if these 2 octets are not used, w=
hy 6
is chosen as the hardware address length?</font></font></font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%"><font color=3D"#000000"><fo=
nt face=3D"Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font style=3D"font-size:=
12pt">Thanks,</font></font></font></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:0in;line-height:100%"><font color=3D"#000000"><fo=
nt face=3D"Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font style=3D"font-size:=
12pt">-
Xufeng</font></font></font></p></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di=
r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 11:19 AM Tarek Saad &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tsaad.net@gmail.com">tsaad.net@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">





<div lang=3D"EN-CA" style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">
<div class=3D"gmail-m_1523404207369455224WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt">Hi Xufeng/Yingzhen/Ra=
kesh,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt">You have been selecte=
d as potential MPLS-RT reviewers for draft-kompella-mpls-larp-10.<u></u><u>=
</u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt">Note to authors: You =
have been CC&#39;d on this email so that you can know that this review is g=
oing on.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt">Reviews should commen=
t on whether the document is coherent, is it useful (ie, is it likely to be=
 actually useful in operational networks), and is the document technically =
sound?=C2=A0 We are interested in knowing
 whether the document is ready to be considered for WG adoption (ie, it doe=
sn&#39;t have to be perfect at this point, but should be a good start).<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt">Reviews should be sen=
t to the document authors, WG co-chairs and WG secretary, and CC&#39;d to t=
he MPLS WG email list. If necessary, comments may be sent privately to only=
 the WG chairs.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt">If you have technical=
 comments you should try to be explicit about what *really* need to be reso=
lved before adopting it as a working group document, and what can wait unti=
l the document is a working group
 document and the working group has the revision control.<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt">Can you review the do=
cument by November 26, 2021?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u><=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt">Regards, <u></u><u></=
u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14pt">Tarek (as MPLS WG cha=
ir)<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>

</blockquote></div>

--00000000000016e93605d2449674--

