[mpls] R: New Liaison Statement, "Response to "LS223 - Last Call review of the MPLS-TP OAM Framework draft" ref #039.03"

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Subject: [mpls] R: New Liaison Statement, "Response to "LS223 - Last Call review of the MPLS-TP OAM Framework draft" ref #039.03"
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I am very concerned by the content of this LS reply as it is not aligned with collaborative spirit recommended by the JWT.

At the last ITU-T SG15 meeting, following a very late request raised by the IETF participants, I have spent one night to reverse engineer all the changes done to G.8110.1 during a two-weeks-long meeting in order to allow ITU-T providing IETF a LS reply containing the information about ITU-T disposition of the IETF comments on G.8110.1.

Although ITU-T participants would have appreciated such a request being raised at the beginning of the meeting (in order to track the changes during the meeting rather than reverse engineering them at the end of the meeting), I have offered to undertake this huge effort in order to maintain the collaborative spirit between the two SDOs.

ITU-T has, since quite a long time, explicitly requested to be informed about the disposition of its comments on the IETF I-Ds. So the expectation is that the editors of MPLS-TP I-Ds would track the disposition of the ITU-T comments and that the IETF would liaise this information to ITU-T.

In this particular case, my concern is even stronger given the fact that the editors of the MPLS-TP OAM Framework draft have actually spent the effort to track all the comments and disposition raised during the third WG LC (both from IETF and ITU-T), so there is no cost from IETF perspective in sending this information to ITU-T (as per ITU-T request).

In order to make this information informally available to everybody, I have uploaded the documents describing editors' disposition of all the WG LC comments at the following URL:

http://www.italobusi.altervista.org/MPLS-TP/Third_LC_on_OAM-Framework_v09.doc

With the objective to recover a spirit of collaboration between the two SDOs, I would propose that:

a) ITU-T Q10/15 experts review the -09 version of the I-D (together with this document) to assess whether the editors have successfully resolved the ITU-T comments and there is consensus within ITU-T to support the publication of the I-D;

b) IETF MPLS WG chairs send a new LS reply providing, in a formal way, the response on how the ITU-T comments have been addressed and requesting ITU-T approval to move the document forward in the approval process;

c) ITU-T Q10/15 experts communicate IETF the result of their review.

Best Regards

Italo

-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: mpls-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:mpls-bounces@ietf.org] Per conto di Loa Andersson
Inviato: giovedì 7 ottobre 2010 10.15
A: greg.jones@itu.int
Cc: mpls@ietf.org; stbryant@cisco.com; greg.jones@itu.int; Bocci, Matthew (Matthew); malcolm.betts@zte.com.cn; andrew.g.malis@verizon.com; loa.andersson@ericsson.com; yoichi.maeda@ntt-at.co.jp; mpls-tp@ietf.org; ahmpls-tp@lists.itu.int; paf@cisco.com; adrian.farrel@huawei.com; tsbsg15@itu.int; hhelvoort@huawei.com; Lam, Hing-Kam (Kam); ghani.abbas@ericsson.com
Oggetto: [mpls] New Liaison Statement, "Response to "LS223 - Last Call review of the MPLS-TP OAM Framework draft" ref #039.03"


Title: Response to "LS223 - Last Call review of the MPLS-TP OAM Framework draft" ref #039.03
Submission Date: 2010-10-07
URL of the IETF Web page: https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/liaison_detail.cgi?detail_id=958 

From: Loa Andersson(IETF MPLS WG) <loa@pi.nu>
To: ITU-T Q10/15(greg.jones@itu.int)
Cc: yoichi.maeda@ntt-at.co.jp
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Reponse Contact: loa.andersson@ericsson.com
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Purpose: For information 
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We have received you liaison "LS223 - Last Call review of the 
MPLS-TP OAM Framework draft #039.02" and will resolve them in the
same manner as any other comments received during WG last call.

Loa and George

MPLS Working group co-chairs
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