Re: [mpls] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-zulr-mpls-tp-linear-protection-switching-09.txt

[Loa Andersson <[e-mail]>]

Eric,


The working group chairs has discussed the information we had from the
document authors. We found that we have no reason to try to stop the
publication of the document as an Independent Stream RFC.

We also say that if any want to comment on that they are welcome to do
so on the mpls wg mailing list.

If anyone have technical or other comments on the draft they definitely
should send them to the authors, and as for that this is of interest for
the working group also copy the list.

However since the document is reflecting what has been implemented and
deployed there is not much idea to discuss technical improvements of the
solution as such, it is what it is.

/Loa
mpls wg co-chair


On 2014-02-01 00:49, Eric Gray wrote:
> Loa,
>
> 	As I understand it, when an Internet Draft is published as an Independent
> Stream RFC, the publication notice will explicitly state that the document is not an
> IETF working group product.
>
> 	I think it might be a good idea to offer the WG a chance to try to improve
> the quality of the draft prior to its publication, but I also think it is important for
> folks to realize two things:
>
> 1) Because the proposal is to publish the draft as Independent, the Authors aren't
>       expected to respond to or address any detailed comments on the draft itself;
> 2) There is no implicit working group endorsement to be imputed by any lack of
>        comments on the draft itself.
>
> 	Hence I believe - just to be clear - you are asking only for comments on the
> decision to allow publication of the draft as an Independent Stream RFC.
>
> 	Is that correct?
>
> 	Presumably, if anyone has detailed or editorial comments on the draft, it
> is probably preferable for those comments to be addressed to the authors of the
> draft privately...
>
> --
> Eric
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mpls [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson
> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:05 AM
> To: [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> Cc: [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [mpls] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-zulr-mpls-tp-linear-protection-switching-09.txt
>
> Working Group, authors,
>
> The authors of draft-zulr-mpls-tp-linear-protection-switching
> (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zulr-mpls-tp-linear-protection-
> switching) are looking to publish their document as an Independent
> Stream RFC. The MPLS Working Group was informed about this on the
> MPLS working group mailing (see below).
>
>
> The MPLS Working Group decided to progress a Proposed Standard RFC for
> MPLS-TP Linear protection Switching (RFC 6378). This is still the
> Working Group consensus.  Further there is work-in-progress to update
> RFC 6378 to match the functionality of APS.
>
> However it is a long standing tradition to publish documents that were
> not progressed as working group RFCs, particularly if they have been
> implemented and deployed. This for example is done for the historic
> record and due to the value of documenting deployed solutions.
>
> This is the case with  draft-zulr-mpls-tp-linear-protection-switching.
> The document clearly states that IETF Standard Track MPLS-TP Linear
> Protection is specified in RFC 6378. It also states that the protocol
> specified in the draft is a non-IETF pre-standard protocol.
>
> The MPLS working group chairs are therefore not opposed to the
> publication of the document as an RFC on the Independent Stream.
>
> The Working Group chairs invite the working group to comment on this,
> please send comments to the working group mailing list ([e-mail])
>
> The MPLS Working Group Chairs
> Loa, Ross and George
>
>
> On 2014-01-25 19:46, Huub van Helvoort wrote:
>> Dear WG chairs,
>>
>> The authors of draft-zulr-mpls-tp-linear-protection-switching
>> have decided to publish the document on the independent stream
>> as an informational RFC.
>>
>> Because it documents the pre-standard implementation of MPLS-TP
>> linear protection that has been deployed by several network
>> operators using equipment from multiple vendors.
>> At the time of publication these pre-standard implementations
>> were still in operation carrying live traffic.
>>
>> Best regards, Huub van Helvoort.
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: I-D Action: draft-zulr-mpls-tp-linear-protection-switching-09.txt
>> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 23:36:02 -0800
>> From: [e-mail]
>> Reply-To: [e-mail]
>> To: [e-mail]
>>
>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>>
>>
>>           Title           : Pre-standard Linear Protection Switching in
>> MPLS-TP
>>           Authors         : Huub van Helvoort
>>                             Jeong-dong Ryoo
>>                             Haiyan Zhang
>>                             Feng Huang
>>                             Han Li
>>                             Alessandro D'Alessandro
>>       Filename        :
>> draft-zulr-mpls-tp-linear-protection-switching-09.txt
>>       Pages           : 27
>>       Date            : 2014-01-24
>>
>> Abstract:
>>      The IETF Standards Track solution for MPLS Transport Profile (MPLS-
>>      TP) Linear Protection is provided in RFC 6378, draft-ietf-mpls-psc-
>>      updates and draft-ietf- mpls-tp-psc-itu.
>>
>>      This document describes the pre-standard implementation of MPLS-TP
>>      Linear Protection that has been deployed by several network operators
>>      using equipment from multiple vendors.  At the time of publication
>>      these pre-standard implementations were still in operation carrying
>>      live traffic."
>>
>>      The specified mechanism supports 1+1 unidirectional/bidirectional
>>      protection switching and 1:1 bidirectional protection switching.  It
>>      is purely supported by MPLS-TP data plane, and can work without any
>>      control plane.
>>
>>      This document is a product of a joint Internet Engineering Task Force
>>      (IETF) / International Telecommunications Union Telecommunications
>>      Standardization Sector (ITU-T) effort to include an MPLS Transport
>>      Profile within the IETF MPLS and PWE3 architectures to support the
>>      capabilities and functionalities of a packet transport network as
>>      defined by the ITU-T.
>>
>>      [Editor's note] To be included in "Status of Memo": This document is
>>      not an Internet Standards Track specification; it is published for
>>      informational purposes.
>>
>>
>> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zulr-mpls-tp-linear-protection-switching/
>>
>>
>> There's also a htmlized version available at:
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zulr-mpls-tp-linear-protection-switching-09
>>
>>
>> A diff from the previous version is available at:
>> http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-zulr-mpls-tp-linear-protection-switching-09
>>
>>
>>
>> Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of
>> submission
>> until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.
>>
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
>>
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>

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