Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-osborne-mpls-extended-admin-groups-01
"Daniel King" <daniel@olddog.co.uk> Mon, 03 June 2013 10:13 UTC
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From: Daniel King <daniel@olddog.co.uk>
To: 'Loa Andersson' <loa@pi.nu>, 'Mach Chen' <mach.chen@huawei.com>, n.leymann@telekom.de, 'Curtis Villamizar' <curtis@occnc.com>
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Subject: Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-osborne-mpls-extended-admin-groups-01
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Hi All, As a member of the MPLS-RT, I was asked to the review the following document: Extended Administrative Groups in MPLS-TE http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-osborne-mpls-extended-admin-groups-01 The I-D looks to add a sub-TLV (IGP-TE) to provide for additional administrative groups (AGs). The requirement is derived from the current limit of 32 AGs. To extend beyond the 32 AG limit (Extended AGs - EAGs), the I-D proposes an OSPF/ISIS (TE) sub-TLV and an RSVP C-Type (Class 207). Overall the draft is well-written and the solution proposal has been documented. I think the document should be considered for WG adoption. A few areas that will require further discussion include: backwards compatibility, advertising default values, and a few NITS. 1. Backwards Compatibility Within the network of nodes that support EAG and those that do not. Given that AGs may already be widely used within the network. The author proposes that if a node is advertising both the AG and EAG, then the first 32 bits of the EAG must be identical to the advertised AG. Thus allowing the continued use of AGs, even if nodes in the network are incapable of supporting EAGs. This seems logical, but should be discussed and approved by users (operators). 2. Advertising Default Values The I-D proposes that specified but not unadvertised EAG have a default value of 0. This may differ from other vendor implementations of how they treat unadvertised AGs. Further discussion would be required with vendors who implemented AGs, and might be interested in implementing EAGs. Various NITs/suggestions: 3. There are a number of TBD ("To Be Discussed") and Editor Notes that need to be either discussed, but in some cases just updated or removed. 4. Use of Requirements Language should be checked, specifically uses of "must", "shouldn't". 5. Documenting Procedures and Error Handling. Although the I-D documents what seems to be the necessary procedures in various scenarios, it may be helpful (readability) to specifically highlight them in a procedures section or sub-section. 6. Maybe a paragraph or short sub-section providing motivation and context would be helpful to the reader (i.e., why are 32 colors not sufficient for today's networks?). Br, Dan. -----Original Message----- From: Loa Andersson [mailto:loa@pi.nu] Sent: 18 May 2013 19:51 To: Daniel King; Mach Chen; n.leymann@telekom.de; Curtis Villamizar Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org; draft-osborne-mpls-extended-admin-groups@tools.ietf.org; VIGOUREUX, MARTIN (MARTIN) Subject: MPLS-RT review of draft-osborne-mpls-extended-admin-groups-01 Dan, Mach, Nic and Curtis, You have been selected as MPLS Review team reviewers for draft-osborne-mpls-extended-admin-groups-01. Note to authors: You have been CC'd on this email so that you can know that this review is going on. However, please do not review your own document. Reviews should comment on whether the document is coherent, is it useful (ie, is it likely to be actually useful in operational networks), and is the document technically sound? We are interested in knowing whether the document is ready to be considered for WG adoption (ie, it doesn't have to be perfect at this point, but should be a good start). Reviews should be sent to the document authors, WG co-chairs and WG secretary, and CC'd to the MPLS WG email list. If necessary, comments may be sent privately to only the WG chairs. Are you able to review this draft by June 3, 2013? Thanks, Loa (as MPLS WG chair) -- Loa Andersson email: loa@mail01.huawei.com Senior MPLS Expert loa@pi.nu Huawei Technologies (consultant) phone: +46 739 81 21 64
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-osborne-mpls-e… Daniel King
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-osborne-mpls-e… Daniel King
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-osborne-mpls-e… Eric Osborne (eosborne)
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-osborne-mpls-e… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-osborne-mpls-e… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-osborne-mpls-e… Eric Osborne (eosborne)
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-osborne-mpls-e… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-osborne-mpls-e… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-osborne-mpls-e… Eric Osborne (eosborne)
- Re: [mpls] MPLS-RT review of draft-osborne-mpls-e… Adrian Farrel