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You assert that there are multiple accepted use cases where PSD is 
advantageous over ISD.  Putting aside the iOAM DEX case that we are 
debating, I have not seen a single use case where the WG agrees that PSD 
is advantageous over ISD.  My understanding is that the chairs said that 
PSD work would be deferred until there were such agreed use cases.

Yours,

Joel

On 6/26/2024 3:47 PM, Haoyu Song wrote:
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> You said "I think that the question is Which are MNA use cases that 
> cannot be supported using ISD MNA solution?”
>
> I think this is a wrong question to ask. A similar question is: which 
> use case can’t be supported by using PSD MNA solution?  Of cause, each 
> has its own merits and drawbacks. A use case can be done in a way 
> doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the preferred way and the only way to do 
> it. As for which way is better, it depends on many factors and could 
> be subjective sometimes. Therefore, as the protocol designer, we 
> shouldn’t make the decision for the users because we are not in their 
> shoes.
>
> While I’m not necessarily in favor of the particular PSD solution, I 
> think it has been long established that PSD is useful and necessary. 
> The old proposal has been worked on for several years by most of the 
> people here. It was turned down not because it is unneeded but because 
> some patent issues. PSD is backed by many existing use case proposals, 
> and the mechanism itself is more scalable and flexible with less 
> constraints.  Therefore, I strongly support to continue the 
> development of the PSD solution. If any solution achieves the WG 
> consensus, I’ll support it.  The complete MNA solution with both ISD 
> and PSD will offer choices to users and let market to decide which one 
> to use for each particular application.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Haoyu
>
> *From:* Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2024 8:38 AM
> *To:* Dongjie (Jimmy) <jie.dong=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> *Cc:* Jaganbabu Rajamanickam (jrajaman) 
> <jrajaman=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; mpls-chairs@ietf.org; mpls 
> <mpls@ietf.org>; draft-jags-mpls-ps-mna-hdr@ietf.org
> *Subject:* [mpls] Re: Request WG adoption for 
> draft-jags-mpls-ps-mna-hdr-03.txt
>
> Hi Donjie,
>
> thank you for sharing your views. Please find my notes below tagged GIM>>.
>
> Regards,
>
> Greg
>
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 7:42 AM Dongjie (Jimmy) 
> <jie.dong=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
>     Hi Rakesh and all,
>
>     I fully agree that the PSD solution could be useful for the IOAM
>     use case as described in draft-ietf-mpls-mna-usecases.
>
> GIM>> I think that the question is Which are MNA use cases that cannot 
> be supported using ISD MNA solution? Of course, all cases listed in 
> draft-ietf-mpls-mna-usecases 
> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-mna-usecases/> can 
> be done using PSD, but does that mean that the PSD MNA solution is 
> necessary to support these cases? AFAICS, it is not, as these cases 
> can adequately and satisfactorily can be realized using the ISD MNA 
> approach.
>
>     In addition, both the requirement draft and framework draft has
>     many text about PSD, which shows PSD is an integral part of the
>     MNA solution.
>
> GIM>> I don't agree with your interpretation. "Integral", although I 
> am not a native English speaker, means that there is no MNA without a 
> PSD part. But that is clearly not the case so far as there has been no 
> case presented that cannot be realized using ISD PSD. IMHO, PSD is an 
> optional but not an integral and necessary component of MNA.
>
>     Lastly, section 5 of draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr mentions that for
>     some type of data the encoding with ISD would be inefficient, and
>     PSD can be another (more efficient?) choice.
>
> GIM>> That reference stresses that PSD is an optional approach for 
> cases that cannot be reasonably solved using ISD.
>
>     Taking the above into consideration, I would support the request
>     for WG adoption for draft-jags-mpls-ps-mna-hdr-03.
>
> GIM>> Since no credible technical evidence has been presented that any 
> of the MNA cases that the MPLS WG has agreed with 
> (draft-ietf-mpls-mna-usecases) cannot be realized using the ISD MNA 
> solution, I cannot find any reason for considering the WG's adoption 
> of the PSD MNA mechanism.
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Jie
>
>     *From:* Rakesh Gandhi <rgandhi.ietf@gmail.com>
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, June 26, 2024 9:12 PM
>
>     *To:* Jaganbabu Rajamanickam (jrajaman)
>     <jrajaman=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
>     *Cc:* mpls-chairs@ietf.org; mpls <mpls@ietf.org>;
>     draft-jags-mpls-ps-mna-hdr@ietf.org
>     *Subject:* [mpls] Re: Request WG adoption for
>     draft-jags-mpls-ps-mna-hdr-03.txt
>
>     Thanks Jags.
>
>     The PSD solution for MNA defined in draft-jags-mpls-ps-mna-hdr-03
>     is used for IOAM and IOAM DEX in draft-gandhi-mpls-mna-ioam-dex-01:
>
>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gandhi-mpls-mna-ioam-dex-01
>
>     IOAM and IOAM DEX use-cases for MNA are defined in
>     draft-ietf-mpls-mna-usecases-10:
>
>     https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-mna-usecases-10
>
>     The PSD solution is useful for IOAM and IOAM-DEX, I support the
>     request for WG adoption for draft-jags-mpls-ps-mna-hdr-03 (as
>     co-author).
>
>     P.S. I understand this email was not the WG adoption poll
>     initiated by the chairs.
>
>     Thanks,
>
>     Rakesh
>
>     On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 10:52 PM Jaganbabu Rajamanickam (jrajaman)
>     <jrajaman=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
>         Hello Chairs,
>
>            We would like to request WG adoption for
>         draft-jags-mpls-ps-mna-hdr.
>
>            Updated the draft with the initial review comments and the
>         latest MNA header format.
>
>           Welcome your review comments and suggestions.
>
>         Thanx,
>
>         Jags
>
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    <p>You assert that there are multiple accepted use cases where PSD
      is advantageous over ISD.  Putting aside the iOAM DEX case that we
      are debating, I have not seen a single use case where the WG
      agrees that PSD is advantageous over ISD.  My understanding is
      that the chairs said that PSD work would be deferred until there
      were such agreed use cases.</p>
    <p>Yours,</p>
    <p>Joel<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/26/2024 3:47 PM, Haoyu Song wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Greg,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">You said "I think that the question is
          Which are MNA use cases that cannot be supported using ISD MNA
          solution?”<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I think this is a wrong question to ask. A
          similar question is: which use case can’t be supported by
          using PSD MNA solution?  Of cause, each has its own merits and
          drawbacks. A use case can be done in a way doesn’t necessarily
          mean it’s the preferred way and the only way to do it. As for
          which way is better, it depends on many factors and could be
          subjective sometimes. Therefore, as the protocol designer, we
          shouldn’t make the decision for the users because we are not
          in their shoes.
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">While I’m not necessarily in favor of the
          particular PSD solution, I think it has been long established
          that PSD is useful and necessary. The old proposal has been
          worked on for several years by most of the people here. It was
          turned down not because it is unneeded but because some patent
          issues. PSD is backed by many existing use case proposals, and
          the mechanism itself is more scalable and flexible with less
          constraints.  Therefore, I strongly support to continue the
          development of the PSD solution. If any solution achieves the
          WG consensus, I’ll support it.  The complete MNA solution with
          both ISD and PSD will offer choices to users and let market to
          decide which one to use for each particular application.
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Haoyu<o:p></o:p></p>
        <div
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          <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Greg Mirsky
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com">&lt;gregimirsky@gmail.com&gt;</a> <br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 26, 2024 8:38 AM<br>
            <b>To:</b> Dongjie (Jimmy)
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jie.dong=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org">&lt;jie.dong=40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org&gt;</a><br>
            <b>Cc:</b> Jaganbabu Rajamanickam (jrajaman)
            <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jrajaman=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org">&lt;jrajaman=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org&gt;</a>;
            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mpls-chairs@ietf.org">mpls-chairs@ietf.org</a>; mpls <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mpls@ietf.org">&lt;mpls@ietf.org&gt;</a>;
            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:draft-jags-mpls-ps-mna-hdr@ietf.org">draft-jags-mpls-ps-mna-hdr@ietf.org</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> [mpls] Re: Request WG adoption for
            draft-jags-mpls-ps-mna-hdr-03.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Donjie,<o:p></o:p></p>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">thank you for sharing your views.
                    Please find my notes below tagged GIM&gt;&gt;.<o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                </div>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Greg<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 7:42 AM
                    Dongjie (Jimmy) &lt;jie.dong=<a
                      href="mailto:40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                      class="moz-txt-link-freetext">40huawei.com@dmarc.ietf.org</a>&gt;
                    wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:DengXian">Hi Rakesh and all,
                          </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:DengXian"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:DengXian">I fully agree that the PSD
                            solution could be useful for the IOAM use
                            case as described in
                            draft-ietf-mpls-mna-usecases.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </blockquote>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">GIM&gt;&gt; I think that the
                    question is Which are MNA use cases that cannot be
                    supported using ISD MNA solution? Of course, all
                    cases listed in <a
href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-mna-usecases/"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">draft-ietf-mpls-mna-usecases</a> can
                    be done using PSD, but does that mean that the PSD
                    MNA solution is necessary to support these cases?
                    AFAICS, it is not, as these cases can adequately and
                    satisfactorily can be realized using the ISD MNA
                    approach. <o:p></o:p></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:DengXian"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:DengXian">In addition, both the
                            requirement draft and framework draft has
                            many text about PSD, which shows PSD is an
                            integral part of the MNA solution.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </blockquote>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">GIM&gt;&gt; I don't agree with
                    your interpretation. "Integral", although I am not a
                    native English speaker, means that there is no MNA
                    without a PSD part. But that is clearly not the case
                    so far as there has been no case presented that
                    cannot be realized using ISD PSD. IMHO, PSD is an
                    optional but not an integral and necessary component
                    of MNA.<o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
                <blockquote
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:DengXian"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:DengXian">Lastly, section 5 of
                            draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr mentions that for
                            some type of data the encoding with ISD
                            would be inefficient, and PSD can be another
                            (more efficient?) choice.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </blockquote>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">GIM&gt;&gt; That reference
                    stresses that PSD is an optional approach for cases
                    that cannot be reasonably solved using ISD.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                <blockquote
style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in">
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                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:DengXian"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:DengXian">Taking the above into
                            consideration, I would support the request
                            for WG adoption for
                            draft-jags-mpls-ps-mna-hdr-03.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </blockquote>
                <div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal">GIM&gt;&gt; Since no credible
                    technical evidence has been presented that any of
                    the MNA cases that the MPLS WG has agreed with
                    (draft-ietf-mpls-mna-usecases) cannot be realized
                    using the ISD MNA solution, I cannot find any reason
                    for considering the WG's adoption of the PSD MNA
                    mechanism.<o:p></o:p></p>
                </div>
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                      <div>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:DengXian"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:DengXian">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:DengXian">Jie</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:DengXian"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:DengXian"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b>
                          Rakesh Gandhi &lt;<a
                            href="mailto:rgandhi.ietf@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                            class="moz-txt-link-freetext">rgandhi.ietf@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                          <br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 26, 2024 9:12 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
                        <div
style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt">
                          <div>
                            <div
style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>To:</b>
                                Jaganbabu Rajamanickam (jrajaman)
                                &lt;jrajaman=<a
href="mailto:40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org" target="_blank"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org</a>&gt;<br>
                                <b>Cc:</b> <a
                                  href="mailto:mpls-chairs@ietf.org"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">mpls-chairs@ietf.org</a>;
                                mpls &lt;<a href="mailto:mpls@ietf.org"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">mpls@ietf.org</a>&gt;;
                                <a
href="mailto:draft-jags-mpls-ps-mna-hdr@ietf.org" target="_blank"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">draft-jags-mpls-ps-mna-hdr@ietf.org</a><br>
                                <b>Subject:</b> [mpls] Re: Request WG
                                adoption for
                                draft-jags-mpls-ps-mna-hdr-03.txt<o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks Jags.<o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The PSD
                                solution for MNA defined in
                                draft-jags-mpls-ps-mna-hdr-03 is used
                                for IOAM and IOAM DEX in
                                draft-gandhi-mpls-mna-ioam-dex-01:<o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:.5in">
                                <a
href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gandhi-mpls-mna-ioam-dex-01"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gandhi-mpls-mna-ioam-dex-01</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">IOAM and IOAM
                                DEX use-cases for MNA are defined in
                                draft-ietf-mpls-mna-usecases-10:<o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div style="margin-left:30.0pt">
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><a
href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-mna-usecases-10"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-mpls-mna-usecases-10</a><o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The PSD
                                solution is useful for IOAM and
                                IOAM-DEX, I support the request for WG
                                adoption for
                                draft-jags-mpls-ps-mna-hdr-03 (as
                                co-author).
                                <o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">P.S. I
                                understand this email was not the WG
                                adoption poll initiated by the chairs.<o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Rakesh
                                <o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Tue, Jun
                                25, 2024 at 10:52<span
style="font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif"> </span>PM
                                Jaganbabu Rajamanickam (jrajaman)
                                &lt;jrajaman=<a
href="mailto:40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org" target="_blank"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  class="moz-txt-link-freetext">40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org</a>&gt;
                                wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                        lang="EN-CA">Hello Chairs,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                        lang="EN-CA">   We would like to
                                        request WG adoption for
                                        draft-jags-mpls-ps-mna-hdr.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                        lang="EN-CA">   Updated the
                                        draft with the initial review
                                        comments and the latest MNA
                                        header format.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                        lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                        lang="EN-CA">  Welcome your
                                        review comments and suggestions.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                        lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                        lang="EN-CA"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                        lang="EN-CA">Thanx,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                        lang="EN-CA">Jags</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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