Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-bryant-mpls-flow-ident

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Thu, 26 November 2015 01:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mpls] IPR poll on draft-bryant-mpls-flow-ident
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I'm afraid I don't understand section 11 at all. (It's title
is "privacy considerations" but it's current content bemuses me;-)

If this is adopted and if that section gets fixed (e.g. to become
some kind of applicability statement), then that would be a fine
outcome.

There's a bit of work to be done to figure out when this is a safe
or unsafe thing to do from the privacy perspective and to document
that, but such work should be something the WG is well able for.

Put another way: I support adoption of this (not that I know squat
about MPLS;-) on the assumption that section 11 gets fixed. And I'm
confident fixing that should not be hard.

But in any case - I am very happy to see section 11 in an MPLS
document - recognition that privacy is an issue, even at this layer,
does represent progress. (Thanks to the authors for that.)

S.


On 12/11/15 16:28, Ross Callon wrote:
> Working Group,
> 
> The authors of draft-bryant-mpls-flow-ident have told us that the
> draft is ready to be polled to see if we have consensus to make it a working
> group document.
> 
> Before we start the adoption poll we will do an IPR poll. This mail starts the IPR poll.
> 
> Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-bryant-mpls-flow-ident?
> 
> If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
> (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).
> 
> Currently there are no IPR disclosures that relate to this document.
> 
> If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond to
> this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any relevant
> IPR. *The response needs to be sent to the MPLS wg mailing list.* The
> document will not advance to the next stage until a response has been
> received from each author and contributor.
> 
> If you are on the MPLS WG email list but are not listed as an author or
> contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware of any
> IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF rules.
> 
> Thanks, Ross
> (as MPLS WG co-chair)
> 
> 
> 
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