Re: [mpls] Issues with draft-ietf-mplt-tp-cc-cv-rdi-01 relating to becoming a WG document...
Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Tue, 27 July 2010 15:45 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mpls] Issues with draft-ietf-mplt-tp-cc-cv-rdi-01 relating to becoming a WG document...
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Dear Dave, I welcome your statement: " We will have a "profile" of BFD just like we have a "profile" of MPLS." And the draft-ietf-mpls-tp-cc-cv-01 in many aspects clearly identifies this superset. My concern, as we've discussed on the list, is that some BFD-base functionality inherited by BFD-based MPLS-TP OAM not for technical reason but for the sake of "existing implementations". Risking to repeat arguments already made, I'd propose to make timer change possible only through AdminDown state. Though that changes the BFD-base behavior, it would be, in my view, appropriate for the profile. Regards, Greg On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:24 AM, David Allan I <david.i.allan@ericsson.com>wrote: > Hi > > The existence of unresolved comments was raised yesterday. I thought the > comments raised had been dealt with at the time by a post from co-author > John Drake..... > > Apparently that must have been missed, Here is a reiteration.... > > The issues raised were: > > 1) running BFD at a fixed operator's configurable rate. > Nothing in the draft precludes this. > > 2) Unidirectional path support > It is noted as FFS and dependent on a uni-directional BFD solution which > would involve reviving the p2mp BFD draft. As adopting as a WG document is > indication of intent to progress and finish the work, not a statement of > completeness, and use of BFD is consistent with existing agreements on how > to proceed, although a legit concern I'd assume it is not gating. > > 3) One mechanism that can work independently from the protection switching > configuration. > This comment was addressed as the modes (BFD as it exists, and BFD as > extended for TP) have been decoupled from any suggestion of use cases. > > Based on comments yesterday at the mike and on the list in the past, I'd > assume the issue folks actually have is that BFD is a superset of the > required functionality. That comes with the territory. We will have a > "profile" of BFD just like we have a "profile" of MPLS. It is not clear to > me that this is well understood. > > Is there anything else that was missed? > Cheers > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >
- [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-cc-cv… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-… Elisa Bellagamba
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-… venkatesan mahalingam
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-… Autumn Liu
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpl… Nitin Bahadur
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpl… John E Drake
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-… Attila Takacs
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpl… Rui Costa
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpl… Tapraj Singh (tapsingh)
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpl… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-c… Rajiv Papneja
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-c… Sachin Kalra
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpl… neil.2.harrison
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpl… xuyunbin
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpl… Ryoo, Jeong-dong
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpl… Zhang Haiyan
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft… Thomas D. Nadeau
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-… David Sinicrope
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft… Robert Rennison
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-c… Xueqin WEI
- [mpls] R: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls… Di Giglio Andrea
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-… zhangguoying
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpl… Maarten Vissers
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpl… Marc Rapoport
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft… Siva Sivabalan (msiva)
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-c… Sami Boutros
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-c… Sami Boutros
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-… Yang Yang
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-c… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-… Tarek Saad
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpl… Pankil Shah
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-… Mcdysan, David E
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpl… Eric Osborne (eosborne)
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpl… David Ward
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-c… Sriganesh Kini
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-c… Sriganesh Kini
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-c… neil.2.harrison
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-… Lam, Hing-Kam (Kam)
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpl… Ross Callon
- Re: [mpls] [mpls-tp] [CCAMP] poll on making draft… GRANDI, PIETRO VITTORIO (PIETRO VITTORIO)
- [mpls] R: [mpls-tp] poll on making draft-asm-mpls… BELOTTI, SERGIO (SERGIO)
- Re: [mpls] [CCAMP] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-… Igor Bryskin
- Re: [mpls] poll on making draft-asm-mpls-tp-bfd-c… Yakov Rekhter
- [mpls] Issues with draft-ietf-mplt-tp-cc-cv-rdi-0… David Allan I
- Re: [mpls] Issues with draft-ietf-mplt-tp-cc-cv-r… Greg Mirsky