Re: [mpls] [Gen-art] review: draft-ietf-mpls-extended-admin-group-05

Eric Osborne <eric@notcom.com> Tue, 29 April 2014 12:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mpls] [Gen-art] review: draft-ietf-mpls-extended-admin-group-05
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Done and posted as -06.

Chairs: This latest posting has all of the reviews, nits and other
changes that have been requested.  It is ready for publication.



eric

On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:39 AM, Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
> That works for me.
> Thank you Eric.
> Yours,
> Joel
>
>
> On 4/25/14, 11:28 AM, Eric Osborne wrote:
>>
>> Works for me.
>> So
>>
>> " The EAG sub-TLV is used in addition to the Administrative Groups
>> when an operator wants to make more than 32 colors available for
>> advertisement in a network"
>>
>> I had gone back and forth with Adrian on language to scope this to a
>> single LSDB, so as to avoid the discussion of signaling EAG desire in
>> RSVP or PCEP.  I don't want to add that sort of disclaimer here too,
>> as it makes the sentence clunky and unweildy.
>>
>>
>>
>> eric
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Joel Halpern Direct
>> <jmh.direct@joelhalpern.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> What if instead of "on the link" it is simoply "in the network".  This
>>> recommend the use of EAG whenever the operators is using more than 32
>>> colors
>>> across the link.  It thus actually better aligns with avoiding the
>>> under-claiming issue by suggesting that operators should use the EAG if
>>> they
>>> have more than 32 candidate colors.
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>> Joel
>>>
>>> PS: substituting wants for wishes is probably reasonable.  If we talk
>>> about
>>> network-wide you might even be able to us "intends".
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/25/14, 10:06 AM, Eric Osborne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Joel-
>>>>
>>>>     Thanks for the review.  On your minor issue:
>>>> ---
>>>>    I believe it is more accurate to say that it is to be used "when a
>>>> node wishes to advertise colors for a link which are not represented
>>>> in the first 32 bits of the color mask."  The node may only wish to
>>>> advertise colors 7 and 60, but that will require the EAG.
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> I see your point, but I'm having trouble coming up with obvious text.
>>>> Deciding which colors are represented in a color mask is up to the
>>>> operator, which means it would have to say something like
>>>>
>>>> "when a node wishes to advertise colors for a link which the operator
>>>> has defined to be outside the first 32 bits of the color mask".
>>>>
>>>> but this would be the only use of 'color mask' in the document, and
>>>> it's not one I've seen used in any other docs around link coloring.
>>>>
>>>> The whole sentence you refer to is:
>>>>
>>>> " The EAG sub-TLV is used in addition to the Administrative Groups
>>>> when a node wishes to advertise more than 32 colors for a link."
>>>>
>>>> If I rephrased it as
>>>>
>>>> " The EAG sub-TLV is used in addition to the Administrative Groups
>>>> when an operator wants to make more than 32 colors available for
>>>> advertisement on a link"
>>>>
>>>> would that do it?
>>>> s/wishes/wants/ while I'm here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> eric
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Joel M. Halpern <jmh@joelhalpern.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. For background on
>>>>> Gen-ART, please see the FAQ at
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please resolve these comments along with any other Last Call comments
>>>>> you may receive.
>>>>>
>>>>> Document: draft-ietf-mpls-extended-admin-group-05
>>>>>       Extended Administrative Groups in MPLS-TE
>>>>> Reviewer: Joel M. Halpern
>>>>> Review Date: 24-April-2014
>>>>> IETF LC End Date: 06-May-2014
>>>>> IESG Telechat date: N/A
>>>>>
>>>>> Summary: This document is ready for publication as a Proposed Standards
>>>>> RFC
>>>>>
>>>>> Major issues: N/A
>>>>>
>>>>> Minor issues:
>>>>>       I believe that the description of when to use this EAG is
>>>>> slightly
>>>>> misleading.  The text says that EAG is to be used "when a node wishes
>>>>> to
>>>>> advertise more than 32 colors for a link."  I believe it is more
>>>>> accurate
>>>>> to
>>>>> say that it is to be used "when a node wishes to advertise colors for a
>>>>> link
>>>>> which are not represented in the first 32 bits of the color mask."  The
>>>>> node
>>>>> may only wish to advertise colors 7 and 60, but that will require the
>>>>> EAG.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nits/editorial comments: N/A
>>>>>
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