[mpls] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-li-mpls-mna-entropy-03.txt
Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> Mon, 02 September 2024 08:10 UTC
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Subject: [mpls] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-li-mpls-mna-entropy-03.txt
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Stewart and Tony, This might be classified as naive questions :). Den 02/09/2024 kl. 15:15, skrev Stewart Bryant: > Hi Tony > > I am struggling to see whether this has a sufficient advantage over > the existing EL/ELI mechanism to justify us recommending it existence. > > It is obvious that this can be done, and it saves an LSE, but is that > sufficient justification for the complexity introduced by having two > mechanisms that of necessity need to co-exist? > > We also need to understand what happens in a legacy routers that are > looking for EL/ELI and older routers that just hash the stack. I think > they just provide less (no?) entropy. Is there a scientific way of calculating "how much" entropy the different generate? Is more entropy always better? What are the factors that determine how much entropy you need? /Loa > > I imagine this ends with routers needing to parse for both types of > entropy which is not a great position to be in. > > Best regards > > Stewart > >> On 30 Aug 2024, at 5:26 PM, Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li> wrote: >> >> [WG chair hat: off] >> >> Hi, >> >> This update addresses comments from Adrian Farrel as part of the WG >> adoption process. >> >> Comments and corrections are most welcome. >> >> Thanks, >> Tony >> >> >>> Begin forwarded message: >>> >>> *From: *"internet-drafts at ietf.org" <mailforwards@cloudmails.net> >>> *Subject: **New Version Notification for >>> draft-li-mpls-mna-entropy-03.txt* >>> *Date: *August 30, 2024 at 9:24:05 AM PDT >>> *To: *"John Drake" <je_drake@yahoo.com>, "Tony Li" <tony.li@tony.li> >>> *Reply-To: *internet-drafts@ietf.org >>> >>> A new version of Internet-Draft draft-li-mpls-mna-entropy-03.txt has >>> been >>> successfully submitted by Tony Li and posted to the >>> IETF repository. >>> >>> Name: draft-li-mpls-mna-entropy >>> Revision: 03 >>> Title: MPLS Network Action for Entropy >>> Date: 2024-08-28 >>> Group: Individual Submission >>> Pages: 5 >>> URL: >>> https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-li-mpls-mna-entropy-03.txt >>> Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-mpls-mna-entropy/ >>> HTMLized: >>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-li-mpls-mna-entropy >>> Diff: >>> https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-li-mpls-mna-entropy-03 >>> >>> Abstract: >>> >>> Load balancing is a powerful tool for engineering traffic across a >>> network and has been successfully used in MPLS as described in RFC >>> 6790, "The Use of Entropy Labels in MPLS Forwarding". With the >>> emergence of MPLS Network Actions (MNA), there is signficant benefit >>> in being able to invoke the same load balancing capabilities within >>> the more general MNA infrastructure. >>> >>> This document describes a network action for entropy to be used in >>> conjunction with "MPLS Network Action (MNA) Sub-Stack Solution". >>> >>> >>> >>> The IETF Secretariat >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list -- mpls@ietf.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to mpls-leave@ietf.org > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list -- mpls@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mpls-leave@ietf.org -- Loa Andersson Senior MPLS Expert Bronze Dragon Consulting loa@pi.nu loa.pi.nu.@gmail.com
- [mpls] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-li… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Adrian Farrel
- [mpls] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Adrian Farrel
- [mpls] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… bruno.decraene
- [mpls] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Tony Li
- [mpls] Fwd: Fwd: New Version Notification for dra… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li-… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li-… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification for draf… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li-… bruno.decraene
- [mpls] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li-… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li-… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li-… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li-… Loa Andersson
- [mpls] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li-… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- [mpls] Re: New Version Notification for draft-li-… Tianran Zhou