[mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr (2nd WG call)
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Subject: [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr (2nd WG call)
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Hi Stewart, Making MNA use eSPL instead of bSPL might significantly decrease the scope of the intended experiment by eliminating deployed systems with limited MSD capabilities. Regards, Greg On Mon, Oct 7, 2024 at 7:31 AM Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> wrote: > I have been thinking the same. > > Hop by hop changes of this magnitude are a big deal. > > The safest option would be to run it as experimental protocol on an ESPL. > That way we can learn more about the design and its properties and if we > need to make a change we have plenty more ESPLs > > If the experiment succeeds we can move to PS with a BSPL. > > Stewart > > > On 7 Oct 2024, at 10:13 AM, IJsbrand Wijnands <ice-ietf@braindump.be> > wrote: > > > > Dear MPLS WG, > > > > Given the nature of the changes to the MPLS architecture for supporting > ISD in the data-plane, and the various concerns that have raised on the > list, I believe that this document should be on the experimental track. > > > > I do not support publishing this document on standards track. > > > > Thx, > > > > Ice. > > > >> On 24 Sep 2024, at 15:25, Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> Dear WG, > >> > >> This email starts a two-week Working Group last call for > draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr. This is the 2nd WG last call for this document. > >> Please indicate your support or concern for this draft. If you are > opposed to the progression of the draft to RFC, please articulate your > concern. If you support it, please indicate that you have read the latest > version, and it is ready for publication in your opinion. As always, review > comments and nits are most welcome. > >> > >> Please send your comments to the mpls WG mailing list (mpls@ietf.org) > >> If necessary, comments may be sent unidirectional to the WG chairs. > >> > >> Note, currently there are 5 IPR disclosures against this document at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/search/?submit=draft&id=draft-ietf-mpls-mna-hdr > >> > >> This poll runs until October 8, 2024. > >> > >> Thank you, > >> Tarek (for the MPLS WG co-chairs) > >> _______________________________________________ > >> mpls mailing list -- mpls@ietf.org > >> To unsubscribe send an email to mpls-leave@ietf.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > mpls mailing list -- mpls@ietf.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to mpls-leave@ietf.org > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list -- mpls@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to mpls-leave@ietf.org >
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- [mpls] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mpls… Tarek Saad
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Dongjie (Jimmy)
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tianran Zhou
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Rakesh Gandhi
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- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Jaganbabu Rajamanickam (jrajaman)
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- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
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- [mpls] Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-mpls… Tarek Saad
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- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Tony Li
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- [mpls] Re: Working Group Last Call on draft-ietf-… Greg Mirsky
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