Re: [mpls] Working Group Adoption Poll on draft-song-mpls-extension-header

Haoyu Song <haoyu.song@futurewei.com> Mon, 20 February 2023 19:02 UTC

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From: Haoyu Song <haoyu.song@futurewei.com>
To: Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li>, Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [mpls] Working Group Adoption Poll on draft-song-mpls-extension-header
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Hi Tony,

Thanks for raising the concern. I think IPR should not be a blocking issue for document adoption (I'm not an expert but I've seen precedents). The WG has accepted that PSD is an integral part of the MAN solution and the current proposal reflects the joint efforts of the ODT. After adopting this draft, it can be the starting point of the PSD solution and we can work together to continue improve the work. We are open to any updates that can enhance and improve the scheme. I think this the best way to progress the MNA work without slowing down the overall process, which is also in line with the will of the majority of the ODT members after the hard work of a couple of years.

Best regards,

Haoyu
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Subject: Re: [mpls] Working Group Adoption Poll on draft-song-mpls-extension-header


I do NOT support adopting this as a working group document.

I find that the terms of the IPR disclosure are overly restrictive and would prefer that we selected a different technology for this problem.

Tony



On Feb 8, 2023, at 9:27 AM, Tarek Saad <tsaad.net@gmail.com<mailto:tsaad.net@gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear WG,

This email starts a two-week poll on adopting draft-song-mpls-extension-header as a MPLS working group document.

Please send your comments (support/not support) to the MPLS working group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org<mailto:mpls@ietf.org>). Please give a technical motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that the document should not be adopted as a working group document.

There is 1 IPR disclosure against this document.
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All the authors/contributors have stated on the MPLS WG mailing list that they are unaware of any undisclosed IPRs that relates to this document.

Since we have had some concerns about IPR, we like to remind you that the working group does not discuss the validity and applicability of an IPR, however it is assumed that all respondents to the wgap have looked at the IPR disclosures and, if they approve of the adoption, are comfortable with the IPRs as disclosed.

The working group adoption poll ends February 24, 2023.

Regards,
Tarek (as MPLS WG Co-chair)
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