Re: [mpls] [OSPF] Working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time

Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Tue, 31 January 2017 06:36 UTC

Return-Path: <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: mpls@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36EC31293FC; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 22:36:16 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -0.598
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_COMMENT_SAVED_URL=1.391, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_HTML_ATTACH=0.01] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PFpyheersUXe; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 22:36:12 -0800 (PST)
Received: from mail-ot0-x236.google.com (mail-ot0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c0f::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D4733129416; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 22:36:11 -0800 (PST)
Received: by mail-ot0-x236.google.com with SMTP id f9so259325620otd.1; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 22:36:11 -0800 (PST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=eOh0krs/BS0ZgkZUVhwtVIlzy1j8ttKLfSchZGNHH48=; b=llwUYT6c3xpdPJy5sRIkkOK8C/ai6iSaQBrTLW49spwnvdrlEpKa+oz7GZ4pajFmBg UqZ8YqCosad/Mr5I3O601bLa6EDxiIsm6F3w8kO6c+Q8RRU9ei+Gzom/uSf4WR2q+Wmn NejpdCXMSYxFGQIFngLqbRnJEFcKiNs7ORdb4HafVdmn05cUTAMGMhX7DLDtOee2tA3j r+j4iTiiQbh0Cxt4FcsyFV9RstR+XBOFj/oT1isJEAmeKU5zkjyw5/ZCuYtFdrykEFP4 bqCqM76VMshBwi6JzHB14PlL47RjxARdcIomI8syqNBHJ+L9lbEorp7zj0pmLKgwyAGx jyjA==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=eOh0krs/BS0ZgkZUVhwtVIlzy1j8ttKLfSchZGNHH48=; b=QxJQC/txIm0U7FY/V7Ia8lWX/xM32a11+RTkv96yE25tHuKYI1TwHhpYmcyHcdZ5Gf TTE+h+bovEXkpIWqpF99RObO6pM2wYpSPN3Lb8Yp+LAY/gEo2J2Clejh7ynwZWRQKu7E kq6CeF3pAuGv88IA6Eu/k3AQBKCY6L3IxWV6rz4BIkw9foD9dVhKw8GK4JiOr5e+bPyH wewZdTpRLbZ7U1g4fpOQeYd6WeXSlgvASYYs25SD0zQoaXWZhRufY9hXwNk/+hInCU/K m3Az/wV8TZAgyRbRPZhi4WqIWYOY00PfhwSOFnsGl8ePJQN/C5lzF/LpKKAREkqsGaSp mQoQ==
X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXKT+RW4CxZcDo19Wuj+5oLStZjnXV/pchI3z65pYr0OCjoe63QmWsml82IiWJPhk7zy9VxAxK/9DHSxFA==
X-Received: by 10.157.43.55 with SMTP id o52mr13812506otb.206.1485844571143; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 22:36:11 -0800 (PST)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.157.1.103 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jan 2017 22:36:10 -0800 (PST)
In-Reply-To: <d4ba0355c0db469ebbbb896717c5f911@XCH-ALN-001.cisco.com>
References: <f56d7fa5-8a6a-69fe-2779-9c11e5e85e5b@pi.nu> <d4ba0355c0db469ebbbb896717c5f911@XCH-ALN-001.cisco.com>
From: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 22:36:10 -0800
Message-ID: <CA+RyBmXQxvg9k0f75f72PTGkVtQ0z3TUsMGjb38_E8eKvscX6w@mail.gmail.com>
To: "Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)" <ginsberg@cisco.com>
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="001a113ef06adaec8605475e2550"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mpls/ldZPvfIPDnWGRJRRHCGUiycoZ3Q>
Cc: "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, "isis-chairs@ietf.org" <isis-chairs@ietf.org>, Isis-wg <isis-wg-bounces@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time@tools.ietf.org" <draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time@tools.ietf.org>, TEAS WG Chairs <teas-chairs@ietf.org>, "mpls-chairs@ietf.org" <mpls-chairs@ietf.org>, TEAS WG <teas@ietf.org>, "ospf@ietf.org" <ospf@ietf.org>, "ospf-chairs@ietf.org" <ospf-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [mpls] [OSPF] Working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time
X-BeenThere: mpls@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id: Multi-Protocol Label Switching WG <mpls.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/mpls>, <mailto:mpls-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/mpls/>
List-Post: <mailto:mpls@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:mpls-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls>, <mailto:mpls-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 06:36:16 -0000

Hi Les,
attached are diff and the updated version -14. Would be much obliged to
hear from you if the updates are according to your suggestions and address
your comments.

Kind regards,
Greg


On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 1:11 PM, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) <ginsberg@cisco.com
> wrote:

> Loa -
>
>
>
> The change for IS-IS encoding to utilize a sub-TLV of TLV 22 et al to
> advertise RTM capability is a better solution than the previous proposal
> and this has my support.
>
> However, there are some details as regards the proposed sub-TLV that
> should be revised.
>
>
>
> 1)Rather than use a fixed 16 bit field for the flags I suggest you utilize
> the encoding style introduced in RFC 7794 (see Section 2.1) which allows
> for a variable length flags field. This addresses two issues:
>
>
>
>    o You need never worry that the size of the flags field will be too
> small for future extensions
>
>    o It minimizes the number of bytes required to be sent
>
>
>
> The latter point is something IS-IS has always been more conservative
> about than OSPF because of the fixed size of an LSP set which can be
> advertised by a single router.
>
>
>
> 2)In the IANA considerations you have limited the sub-TLV to being used in
> TLV 22 only, but there is no reason to do so. This does not allow MT to be
> supported and it needlessly prevents use of the sub-TLV by the RFC 5311
> extensions (however unpopular those may be). I can understand why the
> sub-TLV may not be useful in TLV 141, therefore I suggest the table in
> Section 7.5 be revised to be:
>
>
>
>
>
>     | Type | Description | 22 | 23 | 141 | 222 | 223 | Reference
> |
>
>    +------+-------------+----+----+-----+-----+-----+---------------+
>
>   | TBA3 |    RTM       | y  | y  | n   | y   | y   | This document
> |
>
>     +------+-------------+----+----+-----+-----+-----+---------------+
>
>
>
>
> i.e. "y" for all but TLV 141 (in case the ASCII art doesn't translate well
> in your mailer).
>
>
>
> You should also remove the reference to RFC 5305 in Section 4.5 as it is
> too limiting. Simply referencing the IANA registry http://www.iana.org/
> assignments/isis-tlv-codepoints/isis-tlv-codepoints.xhtml#isis-tlv-
> codepoints-22-23-141-222-223 should be sufficient. All necessary
> references can be found there.
>
>
>
> 3)An editorial correction:
>
>
>
> Introduction 3rd paragraph:
>
>
>
> s/ Althugh/ Although
>
>
>
>    Les
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: OSPF [mailto:ospf-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Loa Andersson
>
> > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2017 8:02 AM
>
> > To: mpls@ietf.org; TEAS WG; ospf@ietf.org; Isis-wg
>
> > Cc: isis-chairs@ietf.org; draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time@tools.ietf.org;
> TEAS
>
> > WG Chairs; mpls-chairs@ietf.org; ospf-chairs@ietf.org
>
> > Subject: [OSPF] Working group last call on draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time
>
> >
>
> > Working Groups,
>
> >
>
> > This is to initiate a two week working group last call in four working
> groups on
>
> > draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-13.
>
> >
>
> > The MPLS working group has done an earlier working group last call and a
>
> > request for publication has been made.
>
> >
>
> > The changes to the document were such that we decided to do a new
>
> > working group last call and extend it to MPLS, TEAS, OSPF and IS-IS.
>
> >
>
> > There are three major changes between the version of the document for
>
> > which publication was requested are:
>
> >
>
> > (1) that section 7 " One-step Clock and Two-step Clock Modes" has been
>
> >      moved up to become section 2.1.
>
> > (2) that a sub-TLV for TLV 22 instead of TLV 251 is used to RTM
>
> >      Capability when IS-IS used advertise RTM capabilities
>
> > (3) BGP-LS has been added as a RTM capability advertisement method
>
> >
>
> > A side-by-side diff between version -12 and -13 is available at:
>
> > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-13
>
> >
>
> > Please send your comments to the mpls wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org),
> if
>
> > you are not subscribed to the mpls wg list, send to "your own"
>
> > working group mailing list, and we'll make sure they are posted to the
> MPLS
>
> > wg list.
>
> >
>
> > There were one IPR disclosure against this document.
>
> >
>
> > All the authors and contributors have stated on the working group
> mailing list
>
> > that they are not aware of any other IPRs that relates to this document.
>
> >
>
> > This working group last call ends February 13, 2017.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > /Loa
>
> > MPLS wg co-chairs
>
> > --
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Loa Andersson                        email: loa@mail01.huawei.com
>
> > Senior MPLS Expert                          loa@pi.nu
>
> > Huawei Technologies (consultant)     phone: +46 739 81 21 64
>
> >
>
> > _______________________________________________
>
> > OSPF mailing list
>
> > OSPF@ietf.org
>
> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf
>
> _______________________________________________
> OSPF mailing list
> OSPF@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ospf
>
>