Re: [mpls] Comment on draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-sr-05

Rakesh Gandhi <rgandhi.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 18 January 2021 14:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mpls] Comment on draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-sr-05
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Hi Loa, Xiao,

Thanks for your comments.

The Edge-to-Edge IOAM is processed on the edge nodes and
Hop-by-Hop IOAM is processed by all nodes along
the LSP, including the edge nodes.

We will update the text accordingly.

Thanks,

Rakesh

On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 9:01 PM <xiao.min2@zte.com.cn> wrote:

> Hi Loa,
>
> Thank you for your comments.
> Please see inline my responses with <XM>.
>
> Best Regards,
> Xiao Min
> 原始邮件
> *发件人:*LoaAndersson
> *收件人:*肖敏10093570;mpls@ietf.org;
> *日 期 :*2021年01月17日 13:04
> *主 题 :**Re: [mpls] Comment on draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-sr-05*
> Xiao,
>
> imline please.
>
>
> On 12/01/2021 09:49, xiao.min2@zte.com.cn wrote:
> > Hi authors,
> >
> > While looking through the updated -05 version of this draft, a question
> > emerged in my mind, with the separated Edge-to-Edge IOAM Indicator Label
>
> > and Hop-by-Hop IOAM Indicator Label,
>
> FWIW my take here is that the Edge-to-Edge IOAM only is processed on the
> edge nodes and that Hop-by-Hop IOAM is processed by all nodes on along
>
> the LSP, including the edge node.
> <XM> I absolutely agree.
>
> how can the network operator
> > achieve both the Edge-to-Edge IOAM and Hop-by-Hop IOAM simultaneously?
>
> If I understand this correctly that is what is done by Hop-by-Hop IOAM.
> <XM> Per IOAM itself, the Edge-to-Edge IOAM and Hop-by-Hop IOAM are
> independent of each other, they use different IOAM Option-Type. Per MPLS
> indicator label, I agree with you that Hop-by-Hop IOAM indicator label can
> be reused here, but IMHO the current text in this draft is not clear on it.
>
> > I think there are two ways to achieve that, one way is to define the
> > third IOAM Indicator Label which indicates the existence of both
> > Edge-to-Edge IOAM and Hop-by-Hop IOAM,
>
> I don't see that as necessary, isn't that what the Hop-by-Hop IOAM
>
> indicator does.
> <XM> See above.
>
> another way is to merge the
> > current two IOAM Indicator Labels and let the IOAM Option-Type to tell
> > the difference between Edge-to-Edge IOAM and Hop-by-Hop IOAM.
>
> Does that mean that even if you are only Edge-to-Edge IOAM  you need to
>
> inspect the IOAM Option-Type on every node for evey packet?
> <XM> Yes, correct. Actually you provide the third way to reuse the Hop-by-Hop
> IOAM indicator label, for the network operator to achieve both the Edge-to-Edge IOAM and Hop-by-Hop IOAM simultaneously.
> Acc to the reply from the author, the third way you provide is preferred by
> the authors, then I suggest to document this way explicitly, in my view
> this way is not reflected in the current text clearly.
>
> My 2 c's, but I'm willing to be corrected.
>
> /Loa
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Xiao Min
> >
> > 原始邮件
> > *发件人:*internet-drafts@ietf.org
> > *收件人:*i-d-announce@ietf.org ;
> > *抄送人:*mpls@ietf.org;
> > *日 期 :*2021年01月09日 23:49
> > *主 题 :**[mpls] I-D Action: draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-sr-05.txt*
> >
>
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
>
> > This draft is a work item of the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG of the IETF.
> >
>
> >          Title           : MPLS Data Plane Encapsulation for In-situ OAM Dataloo
> >          Authors         : Rakesh Gandhi
> >                            Zafar Ali
> >                            Clarence Filsfils
> >                            Frank Brockners
> >                            Bin Wen
> >                            Voitek Kozak
> >      Filename        : draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-sr-05.txt
> >      Pages           : 14
> >      Date            : 2021-01-09
> >
> > Abstract:
> >     In-situ Operations, Administration, and Maintenance (IOAM) records
> >     operational and telemetry information in the data packet while the
> >     packet traverses a path between two nodes in the network.  This
> >     document defines how IOAM data fields are transported with MPLS data
> >     plane encapsulation using new Generic Associated Channel (G-ACh),
> >     including Segment Routing (SR) with MPLS data plane (SR-MPLS).
> >
> >
> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-sr/
> >
> > There are also htmlized versions available at:
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-sr-05
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-sr-05
> >
> > A diff from the previous version is available at:
> > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-sr-05
> >
> >
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