Re: [mpls] Taxonomy of MPLS MNA drafts
Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Fri, 08 July 2022 16:13 UTC
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Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2022 09:13:00 -0700
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Subject: Re: [mpls] Taxonomy of MPLS MNA drafts
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Hi Robert, Tony has pointed out that a set can contain a single LSE. Also, as I think of it, a set can be empty, i.e., contain no elements. Thus, I don't see a problem with the existing definition in the draft-andersson-mpls-mna-fwk. Regards, Greg On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 7:17 AM Robert Raszuk <rraszuk@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Tony, > > > A network action sub-stack can be as small as a single LSE > > Well the framework (as written) does not seem to allow that. > > Note that it says: > > An MNA solution is envisioned as a set of network action *sub-stacks*, > plus possible post-stack data. > > To me this means plural only. > > Many thx, > R. > > > On Fri, 8 Jul 2022 at 16:13, Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li> wrote: > >> >> Hi Robert, >> >> A network action sub-stack can be as small as a single LSE, so your >> solution is not precluded by the framework draft. >> >> Your draft has not been ignored. There are many proposed solutions and >> time has been divided. On the MNA documents taxonomy, your solution rates >> an entire section. >> >> Tony >> >> >> On Jul 8, 2022, at 2:35 AM, Robert Raszuk <rraszuk@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hi Stewart, >> >> Great summary !!! >> >> One comment - if we consider this sentence as definition of MNA from >> draft-andersson-mpls-mna-fwk-04: >> >> 2 >> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-andersson-mpls-mna-fwk-04#section-2>. >> Structure >> >> An MNA solution is envisioned as a set of network action sub-stacks, >> plus possible post-stack data. >> >> >> then my proposal >> >> >> 8 pages >> >> draft-raszuk-mpls-raf-fwk-00 >> Framework of MPLS Reference Augmented Forwarding >> >> 2022-04-25 I-D Exists >> >> >> is really not a solution document but parallel framework document to accomplish what is listed in MNA >> >> requirements. The framework document which locks solutions is not proper IMHO. >> >> >> It is bizarre that MPLS WG chairs have been ignoring draft-raszuk-mpls-raf-fwk completely. >> >> >> Many thx, >> >> R/ >> >> >> >> On Thu, 7 Jul 2022 at 13:57, Stewart Bryant <stewart.bryant@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Ahead of the call this afternoon I took at the set of MPLS drafts, >>> considering >>> >>> 1) MNA drafts already adopted >>> 2) All of the MPLS individual drafts >>> >>> I classified them into: >>> >>> 1) Setting the scenes and WIP >>> 2) Candidate Solutions >>> 3) Drafts concerning the re-use of ELI/EL >>> 4) Drafts not related to the MNA discussion >>> >>> So first question is whether I have missed any drafts that need to be in >>> one of these lists? >>> >>> Second question have I classified them correctly? >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Stewart >>> >>> >>> Setting the scenes and WIP >>> >>> 25 pages >>> draft-ietf-mpls-mna-requirements-01 >>> Requirements for MPLS Network Action Indicators and MPLS Ancillary Data >>> 2022-06-21 I-D Exists >>> WG Document >>> >>> >>> 12 pages >>> draft-ietf-mpls-mna-usecases-00 >>> Use Cases for MPLS Network Action Indicators and MPLS Ancillary Data >>> 2022-05-19 I-D Exists >>> WG Document >>> >>> 18 pages >>> draft-andersson-mpls-mna-fwk-04 >>> MPLS Network Actions Framework >>> 2022-06-27 >>> New I-D Exists >>> Call For Adoption By WG Issued : Informational 2 >>> Nicolai Leymann >>> >>> 16 pages >>> draft-bryant-mpls-dev-primer-02 >>> A Primer on the Development of MPLS >>> 2022-05-09 I-D Exists >>> >>> >>> Candidate Solutions >>> >>> 13 pages >>> draft-andersson-mpls-eh-architecture-03 >>> MPLS Extension Header Architecture >>> 2022-04-05 I-D Exists >>> >>> >>> 15 pages >>> draft-andersson-mpls-eh-label-stack-operations-03 >>> MPLS Label Operations in MPLS EH capable networks >>> 2022-04-05 I-D Exists >>> >>> 14 pages >>> draft-gandhi-mpls-ioam-05 >>> MPLS Data Plane Encapsulation for In-situ OAM Data >>> 2022-07-06 >>> New I-D Exists 3 >>> >>> 13 pages >>> draft-kbbma-mpls-1stnibble-01 >>> IANA Registry for the First Nibble Following a Label Stack >>> 2022-04-27 I-D Exists >>> >>> >>> 14 pages >>> draft-kompella-mpls-mspl4fa-02 >>> Multi-purpose Special Purpose Label for Forwarding Actions >>> 2022-02-09 I-D Exists 1 >>> >>> >>> 8 pages >>> draft-li-mpls-enhanced-vpn-vtn-id-02 >>> Carrying Virtual Transport Network Identifier in MPLS Packet >>> 2022-03-07 I-D Exists >>> >>> >>> 41 pages >>> draft-li-mpls-entropy-01 >>> Entropy Values >>> 2022-05-12 I-D Exists >>> >>> >>> 6 pages >>> draft-liu-mpls-nas-combination-00 >>> Combination Method of NASs >>> 2022-05-24 I-D Exists >>> >>> 8 pages >>> draft-raszuk-mpls-raf-fwk-00 >>> Framework of MPLS Reference Augmented Forwarding >>> 2022-04-25 I-D Exists >>> >>> >>> 11 pages >>> draft-song-mpls-eh-indicator-05 >>> Options for MPLS Extension Header Indicator >>> 2022-06-27 >>> New I-D Exists >>> >>> >>> 13 pages >>> draft-song-mpls-extension-header-06 >>> MPLS Extension Header >>> 2022-01-10 >>> Expires soon I-D Exists >>> >>> Reuse of ELI/EL >>> >>> 10 pages >>> draft-decraene-mpls-slid-encoded-entropy-label-id-04 >>> Using Entropy Label for Network Slice Identification in MPLS networks. >>> 2022-06-14 I-D Exists 2 >>> >>> 22 pages >>> draft-jags-mpls-mna-hdr-00 >>> MPLS Network Action (MNA) Header Encodings >>> 2022-07-06 >>> New I-D Exists 2 >>> >>> 9 pages >>> draft-li-mpls-redefining-eli-00 >>> Redefining ELI considered harmful; NPL considered harmful >>> 2022-04-07 I-D Exists >>> >>> >>> Not Related to this Discussion >>> >>> 14 pages >>> draft-gandhi-mpls-stamp-pw-01 >>> Encapsulation of Simple TWAMP (STAMP) for Pseudowires in MPLS Networks >>> 2022-01-14 >>> Expires soon I-D Exists >>> >>> >>> 8 pages >>> draft-gao-mpls-teas-rsvpte-state-update-04 >>> State-updating mechanism in RSVP-TE for MPLS network >>> 2022-01-10 >>> Expires soon I-D Exists >>> >>> 7 pages >>> draft-liu-mpls-lsp-ping-nrp-00 >>> LSP Ping/Traceroute for SR-MPLS NRP SIDs >>> 2022-06-13 I-D Exists >>> >>> 13 pages >>> draft-lm-mpls-sfc-path-verification-03 >>> MPLS-based Service Function Path(SFP) Consistency Verification >>> 2022-06-11 I-D Exists >>> >>> >>> 38 pages >>> draft-nainar-mpls-lsp-ping-yang-02 >>> YANG Data Model for MPLS LSP Ping >>> 2022-01-28 I-D Exists >>> Candidate for WG Adoption : Proposed Standard >>> Loa Andersson >>> >>> >>> 10 pages >>> draft-qu-mpls-mpls-msd-yang-03 >>> A YANG Model for MPLS MSD >>> 2022-02-02 I-D Exists >>> Candidate for WG Adoption >>> >>> >>> 14 pages >>> draft-wijnands-mpls-mldp-multi-topology-04 >>> mLDP Extensions for Multi-Topology Routing >>> 2022-03-07 I-D Exists >>> Candidate for WG Adoption >>> Tarek Saad >>> >>> >>> 17 pages >>> draft-xp-mpls-spring-lsp-ping-path-sid-04 >>> Label Switched Path (LSP) Ping for Segment Routing (SR) Path Segment >>> Identifiers (SIDs) with MPLS Data Planes >>> 2022-06-21 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> mpls mailing list >>> mpls@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> mpls mailing list >> mpls@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >
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- Re: [mpls] Taxonomy of MPLS MNA drafts Jaganbabu Rajamanickam
- Re: [mpls] Taxonomy of MPLS MNA drafts Stewart Bryant
- Re: [mpls] Taxonomy of MPLS MNA drafts Robert Raszuk
- Re: [mpls] Taxonomy of MPLS MNA drafts Robert Raszuk
- Re: [mpls] Taxonomy of MPLS MNA drafts Tony Li
- Re: [mpls] Taxonomy of MPLS MNA drafts John E Drake
- Re: [mpls] Taxonomy of MPLS MNA drafts Tony Li
- Re: [mpls] Taxonomy of MPLS MNA drafts Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] Taxonomy of MPLS MNA drafts Robert Raszuk