Re: [mpls] Should we split draft-bryant-mpls-synonymous-flow-labels into arch and application

Stewart Bryant <stbryant@cisco.com> Mon, 21 September 2015 09:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mpls] Should we split draft-bryant-mpls-synonymous-flow-labels into arch and application
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Andy

Worrying about the work needed to process the drafts (which will be 
quite small) is putting
the cart before the horse.

What is important is clarity of ideas and clarity of understanding by 
the reader. The IETF
is somewhat unique in it's production of micro specs that provide 
separation of ideas
and this has served us well over the years.

Whilst the draft started out as an RFC6374 solution, the technology 
proposed has a
more universal application.

It therefore makes sense to me to produce a description of base 
technology uncluttered
by a detailed solution to an application, and a separate text on the 
application.

- Stewart



On 19/09/2015 17:28, Andrew G. Malis wrote:
> Loa,
>
> If this was a big effort, I'd say go for the split, but it's a short 
> draft so I don't really see the need to double the overhead work for 
> the WG, chairs, ADs, and RFC Editor for what would be two very short 
> drafts!
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu 
> <mailto:loa@pi.nu>> wrote:
>
>     Working Group,
>
>     I have not seen any responses to this mail from Stewart! Take a look
>     and see if you have an opinion.
>
>     /Loa
>
>
>     On 2015-08-17 17:50, Stewart Bryant wrote:
>
>         At the last IETF the question arose as to what the correct
>         document structure should be for the synonymous
>         label work.
>
>         The core draft is: draft-bryant-mpls-synonymous-flow-labels
>         which is a mixture pure SFL work and RFC6374 applications
>         work.
>
>         My inclination is to split the draft in two to separate the
>         SFL architecture from the RFC6374 application. However I
>         would like to take the sense of the WG on this.
>
>         I know that there needs to be more work on requirements
>         and will do a word by word review of that text and make proposals
>         and of course review comments on any of these texts are
>         always welcome.
>
>         - Stewart
>
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