Re: [mpls] Working Group Adoption Poll on draft-zheng-mpls-lsp-ping-yang-cfg
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From: tom petch <ietfc@btconnect.com>
To: "mpls@ietf.org" <mpls@ietf.org>, Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu>
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Subject: Re: [mpls] Working Group Adoption Poll on draft-zheng-mpls-lsp-ping-yang-cfg
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Loa Andersson" <loa@pi.nu> Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:40 AM > Tom, > > Much as I appreciate your comments, and I agree with the technical > aspects of them. The references and the inconsistencies should be > fixed. However, I have a little bit different view of what should > be done. > > It is clear that we need a YANG module for LSP Ping. > > It is unlikely that there will be another document. > > This document has been very slow developing, the first version is > from 2015. > > I think that we should say that this is "a good enough starting > point", and that there are thing that need to be fixed before > publication, e.g the RPCs mentioned by Acee, and the lack of references > and the potential inconsistencies pointed out by you. Which is where we part company. After three years, and 10 revisions, I look for more. In particular, I see too much discrepancy between the YANG module and RFC8029, although, as I said, the lack of references and the change of identifiers for FEC classes and the conflation of FEC classes, makes comparison difficult for me. RFC8029 list 16 FEC, this I-D six; Why the elision? What is the mapping? This I-D uses enumeration and provides a numeric value. The numeric value is not present on the wire and so usually is not specified in a YANG module, except as documentation - here the values specified bear no relationship to the RFC and so confuse me (Common practice now is to use YANG identity rather than enumeration although neither are ideal). Taking a guess at the mapping, compared to RFC8029, case ip-prefix { lacks prefix length case bgp { lacks prefix length case rsvp { I struggle with - the I-D only defines a string, the RFC IPv4 tunnel end point address Tunnel ID Extended Tunnel ID IPv4 tunnel sender address LSP ID case vpn { defines leaf vrf-name { type uint32; "Layer3 VPN Name"; leaf vpn-ip-address type inet:ip-address; "Layer3 VPN IPv4 Prefix"; which lacks prefix length and Route Distinguisher (8 octets) compared to the RFC case pw has leaf vcid { type uint32; while the RFC has Sender's PE IPv4 Address Remote PE IPv4 Address PW ID PW Type case vpls { appears to be an (unfortunate) renaming of FEC129 and specifies leaf vsi-name { type string; description "VPLS VSI"; where the RFC has AGI AII etc So we agree that we need the ability to configure the functions of RFC8029, but this I-D seems somewhat removed from that, too far to become a WG I-D IMHO. Tom Petch > > To put the working group in control of the draft and make sure that it > progress well I want to adaopt it as a working group document. The > only thing I believe is necessary is that the authors acknowledge that > the issues pointed out needs to be addressed. > > /Loa > > On 2019-02-20 19:30, tom petch wrote: > > Not support > > > > The YANG module is very weak on references which makes it hard for me to > > be sure but there seems to be a mismatch between e.g. FEC classes in > > RFC8029 and the YANG module. > > > > Thus RFC809 has > > 1 5 LDP IPv4 prefix > > with a one byte prefix length and four byte prefix. > > > > The YANG module has > > enum ip-prefix { > > value "0"; > > description "IPv4/IPv6 prefix"; > > and > > choice target-fec { > > case ip-prefix { > > leaf ip-address { > > type inet:ip-address; > > description "IPv4/IPv6 Prefix"; > > where ip-address has no concept of prefix length how can that be > > configured?. > > > > There are many such instances IMHO; having references in the YANG module > > to sections of RFC8029 would make this more apparent. > > > > Tom Petch > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Loa Andersson" <loa@pi.nu> > > To: <mpls@ietf.org> > > Cc: <mpls-chairs@ietf.org>; > > <draft-zheng-mpls-lsp-ping-yang-cfg@ietf.org> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:35 AM > > > >> Working Group, > >> > >> This is to start a two week poll on adopting > >> draft-zheng-mpls-lsp-ping-yang-cfg-10 > >> as a MPLS working group document. > >> > >> Please send your comments (support/not support) to the mpls working > >> group mailing list (mpls@ietf.org). Please give a technical > >> motivation for your support/not support, especially if you think that > >> the document should not be adopted as a working group document. > >> > >> We have done an IPR poll for this document. All the co-authors have > >> responded to the IPR poll that they are unaware of any IPRs that > > relates > >> to this draft. > >> > >> All, the contributors (with one exception) have responded to the IPR > >> poll that they are unaware of any IPRs that relates to this draft. > >> > >> The contributor that has not responded has left his former employment > >> and is no longer on the MPLS wg mailing list. The wg chairs has > > decided > >> to go ahead with the wgap. If there is any concerns about this, please > >> speak up in the mailing list. > >> > >> There are no IPR disclosures against this document. > >> > >> The working group adoption poll ends March 6, 2019. > >> > >> /Loa > >> > >> mpls wg co-chair > >> -- > >> > >> > >> Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu > >> Senior MPLS Expert > >> Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> mpls mailing list > >> mpls@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > > > -- > > > Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu > Senior MPLS Expert > Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64
- [mpls] Working Group Adoption Poll on draft-zheng… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] Working Group Adoption Poll on draft-z… tom petch
- Re: [mpls] Working Group Adoption Poll on draft-z… Loa Andersson
- Re: [mpls] Working Group Adoption Poll on draft-z… tom petch
- Re: [mpls] Working Group Adoption Poll on draft-z… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] Working Group Adoption Poll on draft-z… tom petch
- [mpls] Closed: Working Group Adoption Poll on dra… Loa Andersson