Re: [Solutions] Re: [mpowr] Re: Quality Control and that nasty A word
Alex Conta <aconta@txc.com> Wed, 17 December 2003 21:28 UTC
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Dave, Managing the authors from a timeline perspective is one thing, managing them in terms of content of documents they write is a different thing. While the former should be part of the chair's job, I strongly believe the latter should not. Adequate checks and balances have to be in place. Mentoring is important. It does not have to be done by the chairs though. It can be done by more senior members of the WG, or co-authors, or from outside the WG. If an educational arm is being organized, that could be given such a mentoring role as well. Regards, Alex David Meyer wrote: > Alex, > > >>>If the WG chairs being the last resort should not be a concern, it means >>>no one is interested in the work of that WG, so the WG should be >>>disbanded, and the work filed as it is - incomplete work, could be >>>resumed later, if interest revives. > > > While I agree that in a perfect (maybe different) world, > this could be true. In addition, you might make a similar > assertion when consensus can't be reached (notably: "No > one cares enough about this problem to compromise on a > solution" or similar). However, the reality is somewhat > different. In the former case (WG chairs as last resort), > there are just too many issues surrounding how authors > work in a volunteer organization to make such a > (categorical) statement. > > In fact, one of the jobs of a WG chair (IMO) is to manage > and (frequently overlooked, but equally important) mentor > the WG's authors. > > Dave > > > _______________________________________________ > mpowr mailing list > mpowr@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpowr > >
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- [mpowr] RE: [Solutions] Further work on WG (chair… Margaret.Wasserman
- [mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (chair… Ted Hardie
- [mpowr] RE: [Solutions] Further work on WG (chair… Margaret.Wasserman
- [mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (chair… James Kempf
- [mpowr] RE: [Solutions] Further work on WG (chair… Scott Bradner
- [mpowr] RE: [Solutions] Further work on WG (chair… Scott Bradner
- [mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (chair… Pete Resnick
- [mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (chair… Henrik Levkowetz
- [mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (chair… Melinda Shore
- [mpowr] RE: [Solutions] Further work on WG (chair… Margaret.Wasserman
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- [mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (chair… Dave Crocker
- [mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (chair… Dave Crocker
- [mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (chair… Pete Resnick
- Re: [mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (c… James Kempf
- Re: [mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (c… Pete Resnick
- Re: [mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (c… James Kempf
- Re: [mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (c… Pete Resnick
- Quality Control and that nasty A word (was: Re: [… James Kempf
- Re: [mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (c… Steve Coya
- Re: [mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (c… Dave Crocker
- Re: [mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (c… Keith Moore
- Re: Quality Control and that nasty A word (was: R… Pete Resnick
- [mpowr] Re: Quality Control and that nasty A word Lucy E. Lynch
- Re: Quality Control and that nasty A word (was: R… James Kempf
- [mpowr] Re: Quality Control and that nasty A word James Kempf
- Re: Quality Control and that nasty A word (was: R… James Kempf
- Re: Quality Control and that nasty A word (was: R… Dave Crocker
- [mpowr] Re: Quality Control and that nasty A word James Kempf
- Re: [mpowr] Re: Quality Control and that nasty A … Pekka Savola
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- [mpowr] Re: Quality Control and that nasty A word Alex Conta
- Re: [Solutions] Re: [mpowr] Re: Quality Control a… Alex Conta
- Re: [Solutions] Re: [mpowr] Re: Quality Control a… David Meyer
- Re: [Solutions] Re: [mpowr] Re: Quality Control a… Alex Rousskov
- Re: [Solutions] Re: [mpowr] Re: Quality Control a… David Meyer
- Re: [Solutions] Re: [mpowr] Re: Quality Control a… Alex Conta
- Re: [Solutions] Re: [mpowr] Re: Quality Control a… Alex Rousskov
- Re: [Solutions] Re: [mpowr] Re: Quality Control a… David Meyer
- Re: [Solutions] Re: [mpowr] Re: Quality Control a… David Meyer
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- Re: Quality Control and that nasty A word (was: R… Dave Crocker
- [mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (chair… Alex Conta
- Re: [mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (c… Alex Conta
- [mpowr] Re: Quality Control and that nasty A word Alex Conta