[mpowr] SUMMARY: Give WG chairs more shepherding responsibility?

Margaret Wasserman <margaret@thingmagic.com> Fri, 09 January 2004 21:26 UTC

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Here is the summary of the second sub-discussion under the
topic of the MPOWR WG Proposal:

(2) Does it make sense to give WG chairs more document
shepherding responsibility, and if so what is the best
way to do that?

This discussion was closely related to (and intertwined with)
the discussion on whether or not the IESG can and should take
unilateral action to fix these problems.

Pete Resnick pointed out that he had heard a good deal of
support for the idea of shifting responsibility to WG chairs,
but no consensus to shift authority.  Pete gave the example
that ADs already have the authority to shift most document
shepherding tasks to WG chairs, so a WG isn't necessary to
do that.

Ted Hardie pointed out that the ability for some ADs to
give this responsibility to WG chairs doesn't make this
an IETF-wide policy.  It is still done at the pleasure of
the AD.  BCP changes would be needed to make this an IETF-
wide policy.

James Kempf expressed concern that shifting more responsibility
to WG chairs without more authority will drive people away.
John Loughney agreed.  Pete Resnick clarified that when he said
"authority", he was specifically referring to the authority to
block documents.

Margaret Wasserman pointed out that giving WG chairs more
responsibility for document shepherding is consistent with
the current BCPs, but would require changes to our internal
procedures and tools.  The IESG is forming the PROTO team
to investigate the required changes and make recommendations.

In conclusion:

There seems to be consensus amongst those who have participated
in the discussion that it would be good to give WG chairs more
responsibility for shepherding documents after they are sent to
the IESG for review.

Several people expressed support for the idea of assigning
this type of responsibility to WG chairs (Margaret Wasserman,
James Kempf, Pete Resnick, John Klensin, Dave Crocker).
Several people also pointed out that the IESG (or individual
ADs) can assign this responsibility to WG chairs without
changes to the BCPs.  No one stated that they would object
to moving this type of responsibility to WG chairs.

Again, we've only heard from a small portion of the mailing
list on this issue.  Would others like to comment?


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