RFC Editor doc approvals (RE: [mpowr] Mailing List Management)
Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Wed, 24 December 2003 09:28 UTC
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Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 00:29:53 -0800
From: Harald Tveit Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>, Margaret.Wasserman@nokia.com,
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Subject: RFC Editor doc approvals (RE: [mpowr] Mailing List Management)
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changing the subject, since this has gone far away from list management... --On 24. desember 2003 00:13 -0500 John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote: > * At the time 2026 was written, the RFC Editor timeout > for IESG review of an independent submission document > was two weeks. If the IESG needed more time, it was > required to ask for it from the RFC Editor, typically > specifying a reason. And the IESG approval mechanism > was a call for objections with an internal timeout. > Now, the timeout is four weeks, the IESG apparently > routinely simply ignores that timeout, and the approval > process requires a formal vote and writeup. Is this > progress? corrections: 1) as far as I remember, the rfc editor never did anything when the timeout expired. not even when it was 2 weeks. 2) the IESG approval mechanism at the moment is "one (shepherding) AD has to have read the document and put it on the IESG agenda, no objection must be raised when he does". 3) no formal writeup is needed for approval. the appearance of "ballots" for these items in the tracker recently is because it's easier to reuse the mechanism than to be sure we remember who had the objection and why, not because we wish to add more formality or delay to the process. _______________________________________________ mpowr mailing list mpowr@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpowr
- [mpowr] Mailing List Management James Kempf
- RE: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Margaret.Wasserman
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Alex Rousskov
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Alex Conta
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management James Kempf
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Alex Conta
- RE: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Alex Rousskov
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management John C Klensin
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Alex Conta
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Alex Rousskov
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Alex Conta
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management James Kempf
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Alex Rousskov
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management James Kempf
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Melinda Shore
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Alex Rousskov
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management James Kempf
- RE: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Margaret.Wasserman
- RE: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Margaret.Wasserman
- RE: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Alex Rousskov
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Alex Rousskov
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management James Kempf
- RE: [mpowr] Mailing List Management John C Klensin
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Spencer Dawkins
- RE: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Margaret.Wasserman
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Alex Conta
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Alex Conta
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Spencer Dawkins
- RE: [mpowr] Mailing List Management John C Klensin
- RFC Editor doc approvals (RE: [mpowr] Mailing Lis… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: RFC Editor doc approvals (RE: [mpowr] Mailing… John C Klensin
- Re: RFC Editor doc approvals (RE: [mpowr] Mailing… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: RFC Editor doc approvals (RE: [mpowr] Mailing… Dave Crocker
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Alex Rousskov
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Alex Rousskov
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management John C Klensin
- Re: Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Dave Crocker
- Re: [mpowr] Mailing List Management Alex Rousskov