Re: [mpowr] WG Formation

Pete,

PR> that effort that now goes on during charter review? Well, a different
PR> answer to that is, "Stop spending all of that effort doing 
PR> nit-picking charter reviews." We seem to be doing that so that we can 
PR> have some grand justification to stop working groups from doing bad 
PR> things in the future. There's another tool at our disposal to do 
PR> that, which is to have the AD mercilessly kill the working group if 
PR> it strays.

I think the difference in our views involves very different expectations
about changing people's behavior.

We have a track record of people behaving a certain way that is
inefficient and unproductive. Lots of different people, over a long
period of time. So it clearly is not a matter of particular people. It
is a matter of the organizational structure and process. It is a matter
of context. Yes, people can change, but we have not yet figured out how
to do that in this forum.

Rather than mandate that various people shall start behaving
differently, the suggestion is to remove the problem from the IETF
management venue.  Allow entry only after a group has demonstrated a
basic ability to do the work necessary.

In other words, the problem is with the context, so let's change the
context.

d/
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 Dave Crocker <dcrocker-at-brandenburg-dot-com>
 Brandenburg InternetWorking <www.brandenburg.com>
 Sunnyvale, CA  USA <tel:+1.408.246.8253>

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