Re: [Solutions] Re: [mpowr] Re: Quality Control and that nasty A word
David Meyer <dmm@1-4-5.net> Wed, 17 December 2003 21:48 UTC
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From: David Meyer <dmm@1-4-5.net>
To: Alex Rousskov <rousskov@measurement-factory.com>
Cc: MPowr <mpowr@ietf.org>, solutions@alvestrand.no
Subject: Re: [Solutions] Re: [mpowr] Re: Quality Control and that nasty A word
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On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 02:42:52PM -0700, Alex Rousskov wrote: >> On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, David Meyer wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 01:31:31PM -0700, Alex Rousskov wrote: >> > >> >> > >> On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, David Meyer wrote: >> > >> >> > >> >>> If the WG chairs being the last resort should not be a concern, it >> > >> >>> means no one is interested in the work of that WG, so the WG >> > >> >>> should be disbanded, and the work filed as it is - incomplete >> > >> >>> work, could be resumed later, if interest revives. >> > >> > >> > >> > In the former case (WG chairs as last resort), there are just too >> > >> > many issues surrounding how authors work in a volunteer organization >> > >> > to make such a (categorical) statement. >> > >> >> > >> Nothing in the volunteer nature of an organization implies that >> > >> half-baked documents without authors are worth promoting to standard >> > >> levels by heroic chair actions. >> > >> > Who said anything about half-baked documents without >> > authors or promoting to standards level (other than you)? >> >> The original remark by (Pekka Savola?) implied that context, IMO: >> >> > Removing that possibility might be interesting, but would the WG get >> > anything done then? :-) WG chairs are often the last resort of >> > pushing through the documents when WG falls into paralysis :-) >> >> Documents of a paralytic WG are usually half-baked. "Pushing through" >> in this context implies "promoting to standard levels" to me. >> >> If I misunderstood the context, I apologize. I hope my agreement with >> Alex reaction that such a WG should be disbanded would still stand in >> the "right" context, whatever that is. No worries. I think we're agreeing for the most part. Dave _______________________________________________ mpowr mailing list mpowr@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpowr
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