Re: [mpowr] Re: process-only participation in WG [Troops vs superpower]
Alex Conta <aconta@txc.com> Thu, 18 December 2003 20:19 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mpowr] Re: process-only participation in WG [Troops vs
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Pekka Savola wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2003, Alex Conta wrote: > [...] >> > Why would I (or someone else) want to waste time on something >> > that I don't even find interesting, while I could use the same time to >> > contribute technically in other WGs? >> >>Back to your question, I will answer with a question: >> >>Do you mean that you would accept to be a WG chair, only if you can be >>the technical leader, the architect, the editor, and the reviewer of the WG? > > > Yes. I have zero interest in being only a process manager. > > Note the use of _can be_. If there is someone else editing the > documents, I probably wouldn't need (or want to) do it. If there is > someone else authoring the documents of ideas which need to be written > down, maybe I wouldn't need to do it. If everybody else was carefully > reviewing the products of the WG, maybe I wouldn't need to do it. If > there was active, well-informed dialogue in the WG about the technical > directions, maybe I wouldn't need to try to give some coherence/vision > about the direction of the WG. > I believe our last paragraph shows convergence. Alex
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- Re: [mpowr] Re: process-only participation in WG … Pekka Savola
- Re: [mpowr] Re: process-only participation in WG … Alex Conta
- Re: [mpowr] Re: process-only participation in WG … James Kempf
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