RE: [mpowr] WG Formation

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Crocker [mailto:dhc@dcrocker.net]
> Sent: zaterdag 14 februari 2004 17:14
> To: mpowr@ietf.org
> Subject: [mpowr] WG Formation
> 
> 
> (many thanks to bernard for creating this line of discussion 
> and John for
> focusing on the startup issue.)
> 
> 
> JCK>  ...  A decade ago, a BOF
> JCK> (much less a couple of BOFs) were not requirements for creating 
> JCK> a WG.
> 
> In fact, a common requirement for authorizing a BOF was that there
> _already_ be an active mailing list.  If the IETF still believes that
> the primary venue for work is the mailing list, then that is where the
> primary work of _formation_ needs to take place.
> 
> I think that the desires for "give it a try and stop it if there is not
> sufficient progress" can be satisfied entirely by a simple structure
> that involves almost no extra IETF administrative or management effort.
> In fact it will require _less_ effort than needed today:
> 
> 
>      1. Anyone wanting to form a working group must first create a
>      mailing list, and a web page that lists at least a mailing list and
>      archive, and a candidate charter,
> 
>      2. The mailing list must show enough history of activity to assess
>      a pattern, specifically one of productive IETF-like discussion, for
>      the charter and for the actual work.
> 
Interestingly, those two questions and actions is what many (if not all) ADs
ask and want to see before approving a BOF. Some people do not like that...
but... such is life.
So it seems we are doing the right thing?

>      3. The IETF should provide a "WG Formative Efforts" page and list
>      any and all efforts that satisfy step 1.
> 
That would indeed be a nice thing.

>      4. A BOF can be authorized after #2 is satisfied.
> 
Agreed! And that is how I work when people ask me to approve a BOF

Bert

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