[mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (chair) roles - MPOWR WG proposal
Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Mon, 15 December 2003 18:00 UTC
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 08:58:21 -0800
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Margaret,
MWnc> I don't believe that it would be meaningful to say that the IETF
MWnc> has consensus about a concept as vague as moving responsibility
MWnc> or authority in any particular direction. But, based on the results
MWnc> of the plenary poll, there did seem to be significant support for
MWnc> the IESG's proposal to move more authority and responsibility to WG
MWnc> chairs.
Given your response to Scott, the additional point to make is that:
"Based on the results of the plenary poll, there also did seem to be
significant support for _not_ moving more "authority" to working group
chairs.
This is not a small matter of "tuning" the IESG proposal. It represents
a fundamental disagreement with the authority aspects of the model the
IESG proposed.
Please recall that a major concern raised in the Problems working group
was with to much concentration of power. Authority is power. We solve
nothing by taking too much power concentrated into ADs and moving it to
Chairs. In fact, we exacerbate things significantly, since Chairs are
chosen through an opaque mechanism and -- more significantly -- are
certain to be have less experience than ADs.
d/
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Dave Crocker <dcrocker-at-brandenburg-dot-com>
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