[mpowr] Re: Quality Control and that nasty A word

If you'd rather call it "relevance" than "X-stuff" be my guest.

            jak

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lucy E. Lynch" <llynch@darkwing.uoregon.edu>
To: "James Kempf" <kempf@docomolabs-usa.com>
Cc: "MPowr" <mpowr@ietf.org>rg>; <solutions@alvestrand.no>
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: Quality Control and that nasty A word

>
> On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, James Kempf wrote:
>
> > Sorry, I disagree. No sane person is going to take the responsibility to
do
> > something without the authority to get it done. One argument some have
made
> > against giving the WG chairs more X stuff is that we don't get very good
> > people as WG chairs. If they aren't given the X stuff to match their
> > responsibility, we'll get even worse.
> >
> >                             jak
>
> Excuse the cross post - but I thought Vixie's take on Authority
> might be interesting to folks - seems pretty sane to me.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: 16 Dec 2003 07:14:57 +0000
> From: Paul Vixie <vixie@vix.com>
> To: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: Root Authority
>
>
> > An interesting question I've dealt with a few times:
> >
> > From whom do the root nameservers derive their authority?
>
> we (i'm speaking for f-root here) have no "authority".  nobody has to
> listen to us, we are the most powerless bunch of folks you'll ever meet.
>
> now if you'd asked where we derive our *relevance*, i'd say the same as
> mr. bush and mr. kletnieks -- from all the root.cache files that point
> at us.  and as long as we don't do anything stupid i guess (and hope)
> that this state of affairs will continue.  (relevance trumps authority.)
>
> that having been said, f-root got its start as NS.ISC.ORG and the man
> who said it was ok for us to be a root name server was jon postel.  i'm
> not sure he had any "authority" either, but folks "pointed at" him and
> so what he said was relevant in spite of any authority he mightn've had.
> --
> Paul Vixie
>

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