RE: [mpowr] Mailing List Management

Hi James,

Some comments in-line:

> However, there have been some concerns expressed. Scott 
> Bradner mentioned the potential of a liability problem, 

I do not understand why allowing WG chairs to remove disruptive
people from IETF mailing lists (which would be appealable,
of course) would present a liability problem.  Do we have
a legal basis for thinking that it would?  I have not heard
of any liability suits related to mailing list moderation.

> and Alex Contra mentioned the problem of chair abuse. 

I would expect the chair to get a second-opinion from the
AD before revoking an individual's posting privileges.  In
fact, my draft requires AD approval.  If both the chair 
and AD are being unreasonable, the person can appeal 
to the full IESG.

The rest of your proposal would seem to add considerably
more overhead to this process, and I'm not sure what
the benefits would be.

I wouldn't mind if the IETF had a mailing list "code of
conduct".  We could send it to lists periodically, like
the "note well" notices.  If sending to the lists 
periodically is sufficient for that, it should
work for this, without a more sophisticated sign-up
mechanism.

In general, I would not like our BCPs to contain the level
of detail that you've included in your note (3 private
warnings, etc.).  Although I think that this would be a
reasonable approach for most situations, I'd prefer to leave 
the details to the chair and AD.  There are possible situations 
(obvious and/or offensive spam, posting non-English mail,
threats, serious verbal abuse) where I think it would be 
appropriate for a WG chair to revoke someone's posting 
privileges for 30 days without three prior warnings.

Margaret

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