[mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (chair) roles - MPOWR WG proposal

Melinda Shore <mshore@cisco.com> Fri, 12 December 2003 22:52 UTC

Received: from optimus.ietf.org ([132.151.1.19]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA00857 for <mpowr-archive@odin.ietf.org>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:52:28 -0500 (EST)
Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AUw8g-00059Y-QQ for mpowr-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:52:02 -0500
Received: (from exim@localhost) by www1.ietf.org (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id hBCMq2os019802 for mpowr-archive@odin.ietf.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:52:02 -0500
Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AUw8g-00059J-Eo for mpowr-web-archive@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:52:02 -0500
Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA00854 for <mpowr-web-archive@ietf.org>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:51:58 -0500 (EST)
Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AUw8d-0003WB-00 for mpowr-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:51:59 -0500
Received: from [132.151.1.19] (helo=optimus.ietf.org) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AUw8d-0003W8-00 for mpowr-web-archive@ietf.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:51:59 -0500
Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1] helo=www1.ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AUw8f-00058q-9I; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:52:01 -0500
Received: from odin.ietf.org ([132.151.1.176] helo=ietf.org) by optimus.ietf.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AUw6C-00054n-Kq for mpowr@optimus.ietf.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:49:28 -0500
Received: from ietf-mx (ietf-mx.ietf.org [132.151.6.1]) by ietf.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1a) with ESMTP id RAA00725 for <mpowr@ietf.org>; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:49:24 -0500 (EST)
Received: from ietf-mx ([132.151.6.1]) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AUw69-0003SA-00 for mpowr@ietf.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:49:25 -0500
Received: from sj-iport-2-in.cisco.com ([171.71.176.71] helo=sj-iport-2.cisco.com) by ietf-mx with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 1AUw69-0003RE-00 for mpowr@ietf.org; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:49:25 -0500
Received: from sj-core-5.cisco.com (171.71.177.238) by sj-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 12 Dec 2003 14:51:12 +0000
Received: from mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (IDENT:mirapoint@mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com [171.71.163.17]) by sj-core-5.cisco.com (8.12.9/8.12.6) with ESMTP id hBCMmrZ0010302; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:48:53 -0800 (PST)
Received: from cisco.com ([10.25.65.180]) by mira-sjc5-c.cisco.com (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.6-GR) with SMTP id APB98158; Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:48:51 -0800 (PST)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:48:47 -0500
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553)
Cc: sob@harvard.edu (Scott Bradner), Margaret.Wasserman@nokia.com, solutions@alvestrand.no, mpowr@ietf.org
To: Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>
From: Melinda Shore <mshore@cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <20031212233009.5c0775e3.henrik@levkowetz.com>
Message-Id: <58C19470-2CF5-11D8-80A3-000A95E35274@cisco.com>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553)
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: [mpowr] Re: [Solutions] Further work on WG (chair) roles - MPOWR WG proposal
Sender: mpowr-admin@ietf.org
Errors-To: mpowr-admin@ietf.org
X-BeenThere: mpowr@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.12
Precedence: bulk
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpowr>, <mailto:mpowr-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Id: Management Positions -- Oversight, Work and Results <mpowr.ietf.org>
List-Post: <mailto:mpowr@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:mpowr-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpowr>, <mailto:mpowr-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

On Friday, December 12, 2003, at 05:30 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
> The impression I get is that many people support this, a few oppose it,
> but are much more vociferous.

I think there's general support for the idea of moving more work/
responsibility to the chairs, but when we start talking about the
substance of a proposal support start to break down pretty quickly.
It's not that there's objection to the broadly-stated ideal, but
that right now it's difficult to say how to do it well, and proposals
for doing it badly are obviously not going to garner all that much 
support
(but some!).

Melinda


_______________________________________________
mpowr mailing list
mpowr@ietf.org
https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpowr