[mpowr] WGs or WG chairs
Alex Rousskov <rousskov@measurement-factory.com> Fri, 09 January 2004 23:12 UTC
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-- Was [mpowr] SUMMARY: Further Work on WG (chair) Roles -- MPOWR WG Proposal On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Pete Resnick wrote: > #1 already talks about "WGs or WG chairs", so it seems you're only > talking about #2 and #3. Replacing "WG chairs" with WG in #3 makes > no sense: Of course a WG can stop a document in the current > procedures. My understanding is that WG cannot stop a document if IESG wants to publish it. WG does not have the power to stop IESG from making a change and then publishing a document with that change. However, you are probably thinking of pre-IESG decisions here. > So (unless I'm mistaken), you only care about changing the words in > #2. Correct? If so, let's drop this discussion here and talk about > it in the summary of shepherding. OK. My point is that we should not start every discussion with "let's give WG Chair power to do X". We should start every discussion with "let's give WG power to do X" and only after there is consensus about that we should discuss how WG can use/express that power (via Chairs, authors, appointed representatives, automated means, etc.). Alex. _______________________________________________ mpowr mailing list mpowr@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpowr
- [mpowr] SUMMARY: Further Work on WG (chair) Roles… Margaret Wasserman
- Re: [mpowr] SUMMARY: Further Work on WG (chair) R… Alex Rousskov
- Re: [mpowr] SUMMARY: Further Work on WG (chair) R… Pete Resnick
- [mpowr] WGs or WG chairs Alex Rousskov