Re: [Mtgvenue] I-D Action: draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process-14.txt

[Mary B <[e-mail]>]

Ole - you're way off the mark - mold is found universally throughout the
world and I'm sure there's likely fungi on other planets.  The problem is
that certain species only grow indoors when there is excess moisture and
improper maintenance.    And, you can determine a threshold using a HERTSMI
or ERMI test.  A HERTSMI score >15 is not a safe place.   And, I'm okay
with meeting in places that might be considered borderline for me because I
can take my meds, although it could negatively impact others.

BTW, your chemical sensitivity is actually a symptom of an issue with mold,
so you might want to consider whether it could be contributing to any
ongoing chronic health issues.  I'm happy to forward you research
documenting why this is.  You are likely genetically predisposed as the
issue is more common in those of Northern European descent.  And, you could
well be someone that could benefit from the IETF not having meetings in
moldy venues.

Regards,
Mary.

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 4:55 PM, Ole Jacobsen <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
> No, I am not.
>
> Mold is more or less universally present in tropical countries. I am
> not at all sure what is being suggested by testing particular venues
> for the presence (or not) of mold. We obviously should not select
> places that are "black with mold everywhere," but how do you determine
> the threshold? Same goes for 1,000 other chemicals that we might all
> have issues with. My newly renoved room in Singapore had a strong odor
> of "new carpet" for example, Japanese hotels seem to have falling in
> love with "perfume machines," both are examples of things that give me
> an almost instant headache.
>
> Ole
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> On Wed, 9 May 2018, Ted Lemon wrote:
>
> > On May 9, 2018, at 5:12 PM, Ole Jacobsen <[e-mail]> wrote:
> > > What shall we do if we find mold in a tropical country?? Move the
> meeting to winter in Tromsø?
> >
> > Ole, with all due respect, you are belittling the issue with this
> reductio ad absurdum.   What is being suggested here is not that we "move
> the meeting" but that we identify the issue before selecting a venue.
>  Forewarned is forearmed, as they say.
> >
> >
>