Re: [Mtgvenue] About draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process

Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> Thu, 18 October 2018 06:47 UTC

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Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 08:47:22 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] About draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process
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> On Oct 17, 2018, at 9:48 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-10-17 19:45, Eliot Lear wrote:
>> Lou,
>> 
>> 
>>> On 17.10.18 01:33, Lou Berger wrote:
>>> Eliot,
>>> 
>>> The LLC is part of IASA.  The issue is that this change is more than a
>>> simple sed.
>>> 
>> 
>> I asked twice, and I've yet to get an answer as to what part of IASA
>> remains that is NOT the LLC.  Can I get a straight answer to that? 
> 
> Two points:
> 
> 1) The effort is called IASA 2 for a reason. IASA 1 was based on the
> IAD+IAOC structure. IASA 2 is based on the LLC structure. Who knows
> what IASA 3 will be based on? I see no problem with using IASA as
> the umbrella term.
> 
> 2) I suspect that when the IETF Trust was created, we viewed it as
> part of IASA.

This seems even more confusing because the Trust is definitely not involved in venue selection.

Alissa

> 
>    Brian
> 
>> Otherwise, this really *is* not much more than a simple sed.  The
>> fundamental: adding unnecessary levels of indirection is confusing to
>> the reader.
>> 
>> Eliot
>> 
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