Re: [Mtgvenue] [EXTERNAL] Re: About draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process

"Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)" <Glenn.Deen@nbcuni.com> Thu, 18 October 2018 13:26 UTC

Return-Path: <Glenn.Deen@nbcuni.com>
X-Original-To: mtgvenue@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: mtgvenue@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEE7212D4ED for <mtgvenue@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 06:26:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: 0.099
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, KHOP_DYNAMIC=1.999, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PvBQUxlMWmM3 for <mtgvenue@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 06:26:58 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mx0a-00176a04.pphosted.com (mx0b-00176a04.pphosted.com [67.231.157.49]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDD4C12F1A2 for <mtgvenue@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 06:26:57 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from pps.filterd (m0049465.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0b-00176a04.pphosted.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id w9IDIZvM003529 for <mtgvenue@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 09:26:57 -0400
Received: from usushmgip002.mail.tfayd.com ([216.178.109.236]) by mx0b-00176a04.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 2n3byerktn-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for <mtgvenue@ietf.org>; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 09:26:56 -0400
Received: from unknown (HELO potemwp00038.mail.tfayd.com) ([10.40.33.204]) by usushmgip002.mail.tfayd.com with ESMTP; 18 Oct 2018 06:26:55 -0700
Received: from potemwp00028.mail.tfayd.com (100.124.56.52) by potemwp00033.mail.tfayd.com (100.124.56.57) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P384) id 15.1.669.32; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 07:26:53 -0600
Received: from potemwp00029.mail.tfayd.com (100.124.56.53) by potemwp00028.mail.tfayd.com (100.124.56.52) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384_P384) id 15.1.669.32; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 07:26:53 -0600
Received: from potemwp00029.mail.tfayd.com ([100.124.56.53]) by potemwp00029.mail.tfayd.com ([100.124.56.53]) with mapi id 15.01.0669.032; Thu, 18 Oct 2018 07:26:52 -0600
From: "Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)" <Glenn.Deen@nbcuni.com>
To: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com>
CC: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>, "mtgvenue@ietf.org" <mtgvenue@ietf.org>, Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
Thread-Topic: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Mtgvenue] About draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process
Thread-Index: AQHUZU44T6wbYUjMU0qLjfbN4OWRxqUiOc+AgAAoHgCAAAoKAIAABuaAgABO/QCAACmKAIAAeJiAgADauQCAANUxAP//7fTh
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 13:26:52 +0000
Message-ID: <3A34D658-688E-4076-8261-34D603C0D788@nbcuni.com>
References: <328e9dfe-8e30-6388-68be-95b55af0a5b0@cisco.com> <1667ccb8a70.27ce.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <471f7ba9-0b9e-256c-513d-78559ff200a1@cisco.com> <58f9ebdd-355e-129f-a987-dab72bc5da6f@labn.net> <9472f4e7-86bc-121c-ae43-13fcdde451d4@cisco.com> <38ad1b3b-309c-4bdb-fe14-0bbd584bb808@labn.net> <adc56f21-0f57-0be0-799e-126072c62fe0@cisco.com> <1667f3a9670.27ce.9b4188e636579690ba6c69f2c8a0f1fd@labn.net> <6b18f4f3-1e5a-24ac-36e1-54c509139d25@cisco.com> <e462c84b-62ba-8be9-a783-522cec948115@gmail.com>, <7fa65dc0-729a-7cb7-821e-f4f0cb9cb07b@cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <7fa65dc0-729a-7cb7-821e-f4f0cb9cb07b@cisco.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
x-exclaimer-md-config: 47edc00f-f2d6-45ef-be83-8a353bd47e45
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_3A34D658688E4076826134D603C0D788nbcunicom_"
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-CFilter-Loop: Forward
X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2018-10-17_15:, , signatures=0
X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_notspam policy=outbound score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1807170000 definitions=main-1810180119
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/mtgvenue/40axrdbA4aroPdjuGTK0cxjGApE>
Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] [EXTERNAL] Re: About draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process
X-BeenThere: mtgvenue@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: "List for email discussion of the IAOC meeting venue selection process." <mtgvenue.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/mtgvenue>, <mailto:mtgvenue-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/mtgvenue/>
List-Post: <mailto:mtgvenue@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:mtgvenue-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mtgvenue>, <mailto:mtgvenue-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 13:27:00 -0000


Sent from my iPad

On Oct 18, 2018, at 1:31 AM, Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com<mailto:lear@cisco.com>> wrote:



On 17.10.18 21:48, Brian E Carpenter wrote:

1) The effort is called IASA 2 for a reason. IASA 1 was based on the
IAD+IAOC structure. IASA 2 is based on the LLC structure. Who knows
what IASA 3 will be based on? I see no problem with using IASA as
the umbrella term.

Two questions - for everyone:


  1.  Do you believe referencing the struct draft and using IASA is easier or harder for the reader?

Harder

  1.  Should we block on the struct draft?

Yes.  With the qualifier: wearing my IAOC and LLC chair hat - we are already using the requirements in draft 16 in evaluating future meeting locations so there is not a rush need to get it published in order for it to be used by the people planning meetings.  There is therefore time to get it correct.

  1.  Could we reference the LLC page informationally and use the LLC?

What LLC page would you reference?  I do support referring to the LLC directly instead of IASA.

Glenn



Eliot

_______________________________________________
Mtgvenue mailing list
Mtgvenue@ietf.org<mailto:Mtgvenue@ietf.org>
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mtgvenue